I will actually queue for BGs now, thanks Blizz.
I did. multiple times, lost interest. Also now we know better.
Lol you’re wild do you have any idea how long that would take. No one is doing that. We just want to play the game
keep this change, im an alliance player and i think its a good change, alliance are actually winning now aswell feeling great
Great change, but something has to be done about the premades against a completely random group. Just put any team that is in a raid when queuing against another qued raid team!
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Awesome change! This has made battlegrounds playable for the average horde player.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned or confirmed, but are pre-70 queues also included in this?
I’m 65 (horde) and have been in queue for AV, EOTS and WSG for 1hr 22mins with the average wait time for all 3 “Unavailable”
Nothing seems different in this bracket :S
Thank you Blizzard, very happy with the changes and updates. I hope we look to see this continue in the future!
You failed to address server balance, you continue to not address botting which has impacted the economy and now you have failed a whole faction of your player base.
How did you need a live test to not see all the negatives from this?
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Win trading will increase
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0 incentive for horde to roll alliance and help with server balance
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Horde will accelerate in honor and thus attain gear & marks faster
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Horde will adopt a premade only strategy and those without groups will be left with long q times still
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Huge incentive for the remaining alliance to reroll horde
I know you have done this to appease a large portion of your player base but to me it seems like you have done this to catch all remaining alliance players and capitalize on them to pay for new horde boosts.
I understand Horde players frustration at long queue times and I 100% agree something needed to be done, however the bandaid you have applied hurts more than just the pvp community. You could of incentivised the reason to play alliance or the smaller faction present on each server something as simple as 5-10% honor increase on weekends like you did during prepatch.
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Good they have had an advantage long enough.
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There won’t be any alliance to troll.
Ive qued all night and have yet to be vs alliance idk what the complaining is about let horde fight each other alliance are cry babies that only go for premades.
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Is there any point at all to being Alliance now? The only thing we had going for us for a long time was the fact our Ques were quick. The quick ques for the Alliance would have been an incentive for Horde players to re roll and help balance it out. Now that doesn’t matter, PVP in the world and BG’s just favours the most heavily stacked faction.
There’s no real legitimate reason for being alliance now.
This was a player made problem, everyone bandwagoned and should’ve suffered the cons of that and enjoyed the pro’s of it. Mercenary mode wasnt going to work either, well aware of that. If blizzard really felt the need to do something about it, they could have possibly provided the heavily stacked one sided faction servers with free faction change to alliance with even 1000g bonus. One character per acc and all that. A solution like this would have allowed many “Not so seriously loyal Horde players” to make the faction change, enjoy quicker ques immediately, while helping provide quicker ques to the opposite faction. Wouldn’t have been hard to co-ordinate and would’ve caused more solutions instead of problems. It wouldve only had to have happenb to the point where sever pops were closer to 50% a side, variance up to 10% wouldve still been ok.
The bad side effect im seeing from allowing horde to que in against other horde teams is completly ignoring the effects of open world pvp, horde pre mades are skyrocketing in numbers so an already de motivated alliance becomes even more so demotivated unless they’re in a premade themselves.
I know there was no real easy solution to the problem but i feel that many other things wernt considered at all when making this choice.
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Great change, yesterday was the most fun ive had pvping so far in TBC. The guild & community seemed way more active horde side when it came to playing together & inspired a lot more people to want to farm honor & get into arenas.
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Please make the masks only visible to the enemy team. I do not like spending hours with that thing on haha… it ruins the immersion and feel of my character.
Okay so u can keep the change. But we want premade vs premade or don’t allow groups over 5. That’s all I ask
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Please for the love of god TAKE OFF THE MASKS! In small BGs like WSG where the camera angles often run really close to your character the masks are dark and take up like 90% of the screen please fix this.
BGs felt really good up until this change, 5/7 of my matches were premades and given how short the queue is everyone just gives up and says “gg cant win queue next”. Every single BG is meaningless now because if your teammates don’t wanna play they will just sit in the graveyard or at the starting zone and queue up again in a minute or worse sometimes they just feed themselves in until the match is over. Before when you had to invest 40 minutes of time queueing, that battleground you entered was important because you weren’t going to get another one for another 40 minutes so you played to win, you tried, everyone did, there was no “just queue again in 1minute bro”.
I’m not trying to to turn battlegrounds into arena or rated BGs even, but the way they are currently is a joke, nobody takes BGs seriously. The masks aren’t helping things either like I said they take up your screen during zoom in camera angles its annoying. Save the clown costumes for halloween blizz.
This isn’t how it was in release TBC but thats not even the real issue. The problem with suddenly enabling faction vs faction bgs is that now you have set the precedent that battlegrounds can and will be changed in the live server at will. Okay so you want to change BGs from the way they were on release TBC? Fine go ahead. But now make all the premades play against each other. And the pugs and can play vs the pugs. You want to keep it classic? Then keep it classic. You want to enable faction vs faction? Fine, now enable premade vs premade. No half-assed solutions please.
See you in arena
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Just trying to kill the little bit of Alliance left on the pvp servers. What a bad idea.
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thank you blizzard for killing “classic” each change at a time
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There has to be a way to make premades only vs premades or limit queues to 5 people max. Getting farmed by premade after premade is never fun.
Surely bonus honor needs buffing too. The amount of honor per game makes it hard for pvpers to gear to match raid gear
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