Yeah, they won’t do Oracle for Shadow because what happened in Shadowlands with Void Form + PI being misaligned on cds is you sat on Void Form until PI came up… sometimes for a whole minute. That’s why both are 2 minutes this expansion.
its simple logic,
Don’t do it.
it like when a blizzard forced overwatch’s hero “echo” into DPS role due to the ultimate. They were fixated on making a hero with her ultimate a dps. So even though the art design and theme felt more “supportive role,” They ended up giving her a dps kit, leaving the players with another years worth of gap of no support heroes being released.
like simply just stop forcing design.
Don’t force this bad PI design
don’t force this bad Supportive design.
Restart from the ground up and switch it to holy shadow instead while you are at it so the theme can come out better.
and while you are at it, just remove voidform altogether alreayd. Like, stop forcing designs!
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Jokes on them I am already ignoring Oracle and refuse to ever play that thing 
Little late to the party here, but I just read how Premonition is going to work.
No thanks. One button press to start the roulette, hear the Mario Kart item roulette jingle in my head as I watch for the buff I want it to apply, another button press to lock it in (or accidentally cast it on an unintended target), another button press to cast the buff, and then have people screaming at me in /r, /w, and /rw as I buffed the “wrong” person, or buffed the “right” person at the wrong time or with the wrong buff, and of course let’s not forget that while all this is happening I need to decide which DPS to pull out of the fire, which to heal, and which to let die. But wait, it might just hit three people with all of the buffs instead, so I need to keep an eye out for when THAT will happen too!
Don’t get me wrong, I actually like the idea of being a helpful little buff-bot; I gladly took up the mantle of the guild’s Archon in Rift when that game was still alive, and Pogvoker gives my monkey brain the happy chemicals even though I can do far more personal DPS as Devastation in almost every single group. But 2-3 button presses and either watching the roulette spin or installing an addon and letting it tell me how to play (which I will not do, btw) on a one minute recharge… not my idea of a good time.
I dig most of the other stuff though, Assured Safety and Miraculous Recovery in particular are talents I hope make it live.
Come on, step right up step right and take a chance for the magical mystery box!
You mean to tell me you would rather have a boat instead of a mystery box?
I mean you can get anything from a mystery box, it can even be a boat!
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i am very happy you posted that item box lmao.
The theme of Oracle, seeing the future and acting to prevent it, sounds to me like it should focus on things like…
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Being proactive with damage prevention. Shields, damage absorbs like Smite. Focusing on the Shield Healer aspect of Disc’s fantasy, and letting Holy share it too.
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Foreseeing people’s deaths, and preventing them. Improvements to Shadow Word: Death and Power Word: Life.
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Getting yourself and other people out of dangerous situations. Buffs to Leap of Faith (perfect place to put Vault of the Heavens…), Pain Suppression and Guardian Angel.
Some of these concepts get a single node to them, while Premonition gets 6 nodes dedicated to it. Which I suppose could be fine, but the skill has absolutely nothing to do with the fantasy of the tree besides its name.
Basic QoL like shorter CD Purify and double Angelic Feather or random nodes like longer Atonement also have nothing to do with being an Oracle. Feels like they ran out of ideas there, which is odd.
The tree is way too focused on this worse Blessing of Seasons, and suffers for it. Needs a complete redesign.
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As far as I am concerned it will never be too late, keep this thread alive, keep letting them know that this isn’t what we want, that this design isn’t fun at all for their players.
So tell everyone else to come say their piece.
I wish PI was a self target spell only. I hate how much that one spell changes the game and it always sucks being that dps who never gets PI. I don’t like seeing it doubled down on.
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That quite literally sums up oracle. No need to say anything more.
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Yep, I’d much prefer anything else.
Seeing this feedback thread go to 300+ replies of NOPE should be a subtle hint to the devs to walk it back.
Summary of what I’ve seen so far:
1: DON’T DO THIS MARIO KART MINI GAME
2: If support, make it easy on cognitive load
3: If healing, make it a big moment
4: Fae Guardians still exists
5: Get a class dev for each class
5A: Make sure they’re not a crackhead
6: We like the Oracle theme, if it FEELS Oracle-y
7: DON’T PUT THIS IN AS-IS
7A: Removing the PI buff game is acceptable.
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They can’t put Vault of Heavens in a hero tree because that’s an advantage so strong that no other hero tree could be taken unless it also gave the priest a displacement tool.
Which they should do. A squishy class with no CC, no kick, and no combat mobility is unacceptable in the modern game.
Despite that the Evoker tree we’ve seen literally turns hover into blink and gives it DR. Blizz don’t seem shy to add broken abilities to hero talents when it suits them.
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This is what grinds my gears the most with doing Mythic this expansion. Were the only class that can’t do some of these bosses on Mythic without being handheld by others.
Mythic Raz pushed Priests off the platform with her waves and you needed an Evoker to save the Priest or they got sat.
Mythic Tindral roots Priests and they can’t get out of them. A hunter/Paladin needs to remove the roots on them.
The reason why Priests aren’t getting these toys is because of PvP more than anything. We lost our knockback this expansion, Disc/Holy don’t have a silence, and they said no to Vault of Heavens.
They probably thought we’d be unkillable / op beasts in PvP by running people into 10s CC loops and leaping around corners to avoid getting killed.
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What I’ve heard is that because it was technically possible without evoker (It was, it was just damn near pixel perfect down the exact diameter of the platform from the furthest possible point) they considered it ok.
You still had to be standing pixel perfect in the bosses hitbox to not get blown off even after they nerfed the waves the 1st and 2nd time.
Yeah I remember doing it, I didn’t enjoy it one bit xD
Pretty much the whole Hero spec here, close the thread and come back with a redesign 
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Yeah, just erase the whole thing and start from scratch.
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Ya know, remember during the Taliesin interview the devs didn’t want to use the word ‘support spec’ to describe oracle?
Think we conveyed that this is exactly how we see this hero talent tree? 