Don’t give us Rexxar’s pets. That’s an awful idea. You say stuff like this…
… but then saddle us with the same three animals as everyone else, that we have no bond with whatsoever! If ever there were a time for celebrating hunter pets it’s in the packleader hero tree! We have our own packs already! Let us lead them!
Rather than howl of the packleader summoning one of those three animals, align it with our own animals of specific specs. Instead of a bear it summons one of our tenacity pets from our stable. Instead of the wyvern it summons one of our ferocity pets from our stable. And instead of the boar it summons one of our cunning pets from our stable.
I don’t love my pet. I specifically am against all pets for me. I don’t even want the pooping owl Sentinels are forced to use. If others want to use pets in MM, then I fully support their right to make that choice for themselves.
They can make other changes that accomplish that goal. Giving me another bird that I’m going to be annoyed by? No thanks. They can use their glyph system to get rid of it, and I’d be happy enough.
When I play BM, as a player that wanted to play pvp as MM but it was tuned/designed to be harder to succeed, I have no connection with any of the pets. I press a few buttons and 7 pets are dog piling my target. There is no nuanced feeling of control or companionship there. It is difficult to make out which pet is doing what, they are all occupied in the same 2 yard space as the players model they are standing on. Adding 3 more random pets just makes it more effective at killing enemies and clogging up thier screen, it wont make it less immersive to me, the 7 we see now make that as bad as it could be already.
As MM, filling kind of a stealthy sniper role, using abilities like Sniper Shot, animals piling on my target would just be making my job harder, if I was trying to RP during combat(which I don’t do and don’t recommend). Lets not pretend that game combat needs to take into consideration individuals role playing. This is not a turn based combat system game.
It’s a role-playing game. That’s fine if you only look at the pets in terms of numbers but most players don’t. People have been collecting the pets they like and forming their particular teams for upwards of 20 years. Blizz made collecting pets a key part of the hunter gameplay, expanding and enhancing the stable as recently as a few months ago. On some level they know how much this matters to people. Which is what makes a lot of this class design so nonsensical.
The combat design teams likely don’t consider role playing before they use their intent to design how combat will occur. Whether corruptions, legendary item effects, covenant abilities, or spec abilities, combat feel has goals, but individual customers role-playing preferences cannot change or limit the game design for everyone. Blizzard decides what to do with their IP.
Lets say you choose to play Warrior. But you’re mad because you want to be a teliporting warrior, not a leaping and charging Warrior. Or you play a paladin, but you want to weild 2 swords, not one. Do you unsubscribe, write a nasty letter to the devs, or admit that your role-playing doesnt dictate game mechanics and animations?
The art and animation teams can do so, though. Combat design is more about systems and numbers, less about looks.
No, all of these are bad examples for this topic.
You are playing a warrior, which has been built up as a character set around force of arms, shouting and using rage as your core mechanic. Then Blizzard announces that in the next rework, they’re removing rage as a core mechanic and instead giving you spells to cast instead with mana, and you’ll have all your armour and trainers moved to Dalaran and set next to mages who will go on about the arcane power of swords.
All those currently playing warriors, who have a personal attachment to that theme of gameplay and enjoyed that aesthetic that went along with it, would be rightly angry and upset.
Yes, it’s Blizz’s IP to do with as they please. However, it’s also my money and time to do with as I please and if they insist on making their product unappealing, then they can do without my money as well.
Sure its your time and money and I agree with you. Personally I do not believe MM hunter is built dependent on the use of a pet so its more like a gimmick so MM can use utility spells that are due to old design attached to pets. Bliz have been separating MM from pets since lone wolf was implemented - whether it was successful or not - and now finally they are giving the spec full access to the utility wihtout a pet that honestly has been more of a burden outside of solo content for those who like a pet with the spec. Either way hope Blizz finds a way to keep the option of a choice for those who want it unless they ignore feedback like back when melee surv was announced. I think the changes look amazing and can’t wait for the new patch and redesign
What’s the name of the spec in question and the spells the spec uses? Does it have ANYTHING to do with their pets? Aimed SHOT, Steady SHOT, Precise SHOT, Kill SHOT, Arcane SHOT…sounds to me to be a shooter spec of some kind built around using a ranged weapon. The example you give is a false equivalency. Changing a warrior that much is no where close to MM losing pets and you know it.
I think maybe we’re both wrong. The eagle isnt quite the same as having a pet in its kit/theme, it’s not quite a pet, but it’s an animal. It not a super far deviation. What I keep coming back to is, what are we allowed to be upset about? I suppose everything. What is blizzard allowed to do with their own intellectual property? Also, everything. If you dont want to see the eagle enough to not press the utility in combat when it benefits you, like the 2 players that don’t use Wake of Ashes, thats your prerogative.
Edit: I’m also fine with a traditional pet being an option. Without that changing what’s available for those that don’t want to manage a pet as the proposed changes look amazing to me.
It’s a pet in the sense that I’m not the one doing the thing, I need to call in something else to do it. No thanks. Imagine playing a rogue, but everytime you went to stealth you had another creature run onto the battlefield out of nowhere to do a silly dance.
What kind of argument is this? Are you even serious right now? Are you somehow trying to use Bran as an argument to justify MM’s need for a pet? Stop trolling
Your argument kinda feels like mad if they do mad if they don’t. Either way hope you enjoy next patch and keep playing MM or dont its your choice and agency
Very, some people are arguing because they don’t want to use a pet in top end content the choice should be removed for all. But they sure are happy to use Brann in delves, going against their argument.
I’d much rather they go a different route that doesn’t shove more pets down my throat. Change Lone Wolf to grant you the utility of one of your pets when you dismiss it and the M+ who complain about needing a pet for their utility are fine, the rest of us are fine to ignore them.
Or, just make a non-pet archer class entirely and I’d be happier than ever.