I am Alliance and I think this change is great for the health of the game overall. Horde players were quitting the game because they could not BG. I mean can you blame them? It was taking them a week or two to obtain just the PvP trinket while our Alliance teams were in full PvP resilience set obtained through afking insta-queue BGs.
Many of us were asking Horde players to reroll Alliance just to play battlegrounds. However, I am impressed by the speed and delivery of this fix. Thank you Blizzard. Horde players are once again logging in more often and returning to the game. 1 hour queues just to earn small amount of honor was ridiculous.
In fact, it was so bad Horde had resorted to camping Alliance outside because they were getting more honor per hour actively ganking people.
I am a happy Alliance players with insta-queues and this change has no effect on me whatsoever. My queues are still the same. Most of my guildies play Alliance primarily to PvE or RP but we do have some PvPers and nothing has changed for us.
We’re also doing fine in Arenas because Perception and Stoneform are meta breaking PvP racials. They’re actually better than anything Horde has for Arenas because most 2s and 3s teams consist of either a rogue or a druid and our racials kind of disables them. Not to mention we’re in full PvP resilience gear facing Horde teams with 1 or 2 pieces at best.
The resilience and gear advantage is nice. This is why a lot of us are complaining about change, but let’s be honest here. None of us are going to quit over this change. We didn’t when you gave us Seal of Blood to make Ret Paladins viable on the Alliance. We didn’t when you introduced boosts and store mounts. I think this is a good move to even out the field. Alliance may go back to losing more BGs again but that’s okay. Most of us Alliance players don’t play WoW to PvP anyway.
Let alliance experience 60-90 minute queues for a month, and see how they take it. It wasn’t playable. Maybe it’s not the perfect solution, but its the best one available atm. Because deep down we all know, opening free faction transfers wouldn’t solve anything, if there wasn’t substantial incentive for horde to swap alliance.
Yes. For exactly the same reasons that you could blame Alliance for quitting during Phase 2. And I did blame Alliance who quit during WoW Classic Phase 2 for rolling on the wrong type of server, and maintain that opinion today.
So what? Quit because you can’t get something that someone else has in the same amount of time as them?
How would that translate to a real life activity? My best fried Sue had a baby at 18, and I’m 19 now, so I should just quit life? I certainly do not think that’s a reasonable nor logical path to follow.
It probably seems that way, especially with so many of the remaining alliance players rerolling Horde, something that the whiners on the forums didn’t have the gumption to do…
Make no mistake, I’m not asking for a free (or paid) faction transfer or boosts. I very much dislike those things, and should have (and indeed did) quit when any of them were introduced.
This is not my game.
So, why am I posting here? You might ask. And that’s a good question.
You’re right, I have no reason to. This isn’t my game, and this isn’t my community.
If you can’t have a civilized and constructive discussion about the recent BG change for the Horde without bringing your personal bias into this then please keep moving. Go spam another thread.
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here. Alliance will quit during phase 2 of TBC? Are you a prophet?
Again, I don’t know what your argument is here. Are you saying the Horde players should have just quit the game?
If the Alliance players are rerolling Horde simply because of this change then good for them. Like I said, most Alliance players don’t play Alliance to PvP. This is why our queue times are super fast. A lot of us Alliance players play Alliance primarily to RP, or PvE, or for nostalgia reasons. Some don’t care about racials and pick what looks best and humans arguably look the best in all armour ;).
Your last part few sentences are just as confusing are your entire post but yes, best to you too!
You’re blatantly lying about your perspective. How is anyone supposed to have a proper discussion with you about this topic when you aren’t being truthful at all?
You’ll see in a week or two when horde have double the gear alliance does. Todays’ update was not only a queue time fix, but also substantially increased hordes HpH vs alliance.
Please refrain from throwing meaningless accusations. If you have nothing constructive to add to this thread then please stop spamming it. This is the second time I’ve asked you. I am looking to have a mature discussion about this without people like you coming in and attacking others just because they have a different opinion on the matter.
Your thread wasn’t constructive from the moment you posted it because it’s literally just a bunch of lies lmao. If you want a constructive thread maybe try actually being truthful about the topic?
Sweetie, I provided legitimate reasons why this change is positive. All you’ve done is complain in this thread in an attempt to stop the discussion. Grow up.
Ah… I was referring to Phase 2 of WoW Classic, which was a pretty interesting historic time (my personal favorite phase of WoW Classic). If you didn’t experience it, then I don’t know if my personal biased experiences will give you an accurate understanding of it.
It was a time when ranking based on honorable kills became a thing, but BGs were not yet a thing. That meant that there was a lot of world PVP, and even raid groups camping locations, like the main raid location which was Blackrock Mountain, during that time.
Nope! I certainly don’t claim to have a better understanding of what is going to happen in the future than others.
Fair, again!
Nope! I’m saying that quitting isn’t a viable strategy for winning.
You said that? Well, maybe you should support that opinion. Not that I disagree, so meh to that.
OK. This is a meaningless filler statement if I’ve ever seen one.
Hmm…
My entire post was simply a reply to you. If you’re confused, then maybe break it down into either key points or key questions that your post meant to address.
Sure. And you can experience camped meeting stones, camped quests, world objectives and 45 minutes death runs to BRD for 2 years. But 1 hour queues are such an inconvenience? Give me a break. So much entitlement. Long queues effect a small fraction of the game. There are a hundred other things you can do besides pvp. Horde camped servers literally lock alliance down from every facet.
