Feedback: Epic Battlegrounds

Bynir-dragonblight · December 26, 2018, 6:03pm

If the rewards are crap, you find them boring and find that they take too long, my suggestion to you is to not queue. You have other battlegrounds.

Pigpie-sargeras · December 26, 2018, 6:05pm

Thats what I do. Im just adding my feedback here so you blizzard employees can see it; not that you care though. 1/10

Bynir-dragonblight · December 26, 2018, 6:06pm

Good. The rest of us will enjoy the changes to make these battlegrounds last longer. Happy new year to you.

Tomten-arygos · December 26, 2018, 6:57pm

You’re lucky, I’m jealous.

I play AV most days but haven’t seen anything but big zerg, with some bacap and choke so far.

Horde wins if we have defense, Aliance if we don’t, nobody seems interested in getting the extra NPCs.

No Lokholar no Ivus no wolf riders no flyers.

Jugajr-emerald-dream · December 26, 2018, 7:18pm

Just spam a LOT for defense and looting bodies. In the AVs where it’s quiet at the beginning, zerg AVs generally happen. But if you (or anyone really) starts with a good plan, I have noticed people follow along and chat gets going. Ofc it’s not guaranteed.

anon28815018 · December 26, 2018, 7:32pm

I may be in the minority here but epic battlegrounds don’t really feel “epic” to me. Alterac Valley has been modified so many times since the original that it doesn’t have that epic feel anymore. This is just a category you have shoved the 40-man BGs in. You haven’t retained or restored that “epic” feel.

Original AV was about the most epic you could get. Quests, bosses, objectives, battles that went on for hours, maybe even a day. You could join AV and it was like participating in a big war in a zone-sized area. The quest, reputation, gold and other rewards were great. The only thing I would have liked to be different would have been a way to get Alterac Valley Marks from objectives instead of having to stick around for the win because that could take 12 hours sometimes.

On a related note, things like Wintergrasp and Tol Barad are also what I’d like to see out of epic battlegrounds.

Is there a real solution here? I don’t know, maybe leaving the 40-mans in their own category but making a real “epic” battleground category with the real epic battlegrounds and maybe even Echoes of Alterac, a restored version of the original AV with appropriate scaling and rewards. I’m no expert. I just know that in its current form, “epic battlegrounds” isn’t really epic. And I also don’t think that everything in the game has to be designed in a way that someone can complete it while they eat their cereal in the morning before work. And this is coming from someone with an 8-5 M-F job.

Vithras-emerald-dream · December 26, 2018, 8:16pm

I would appreciate it if the panda 15v15 battleground became an “Epic Battleground”. Add 5 players per team if need be.
I feel like this would be asking too much, but i’d love it if the new azerite beach BG would add +5 players too & turn in to an Epic Battleground.

I do not enjoy these bg’s at all and they are SOOooo different than say WSG, Twin Peaks, and Arathi Basin.

Gdtroll-illidan · December 26, 2018, 10:37pm

HOTFIXES: DECEMBER 20, 2018

Isle of Conquest

Siege Vehicles and Bombs no longer deal damage to enemy commanders.

So I did an Alliance Isle of Conquest game today, and to my surprise the Horde boss was killed not by glaives this time… but by the Siege Engine and Demos!!! I couldn’t believe it! This is simply outrageous lol

I saw it with my own two eyes!! I stood about 10 yards away while the Siege Engine and Demos parked themselves at the doorway and started shooting the floor under the Horde boss. We had control of the docks but no Alliance glaives were anywhere near the Horde keep, so glaive throwers are ruled out this time. I panned my camera around and double checked to make sure - no Alliance glaive throwers where inside the Horde keep.

I looked over at the Horde boss health bar off to the right side of the screen and it steadily dropped in unnatural “chunks” of 10-15% per shot. I saw the Horde’s commander instantly go from 100% to 91%, then instantly from 91% to like 77%, then instantly from 77% to like 65%, then down to 50%, then down to 40%, then down to 29%, and so on and so on down to 0%.

Observations like ^ this call into question this ENTIRE hotfix! Was the hotfix even tested before being released to live?!? I know it’s a small indie company and all, but come on guys

Please “actually” correct the issue, obviously something went wrong with the hotfix if Alliance players are still able to exploit with the vehicles to get “insta wins” 1 week after the alleged hotfix.

Bynir-dragonblight · December 26, 2018, 11:23pm

The Epic Battleground queue isn’t a place to dump your least favourite bgs. What makes those BGs ‘epic’?

Quyelde-feathermoon · December 27, 2018, 8:27am

Rampant cheating in IoC by Alliance continues. We just lost an IoC where the Alliance only breached our gates and captured our base flag as we had their General at 60%. We lost when moments later we had their General down to 59%. The loss in our own General’s HPs was so fast it didn’t even have time to register on the Capping addon bars.

Sickening.

Afks-dunemaul · December 29, 2018, 1:13am

This neglect has been reported several times. The demos can shoot at the boss from the doorway still.

Gdtroll-illidan · December 29, 2018, 1:28am

Yeah it’s not fixed at all… so much for the “hotfix”

Isle of Exploits should just be “taken offline” altogether or something until all these bugs/exploits are properly addressed, most players don’t even like IoC Replace it with Tarren Mill vs Southsore in the meantime, I actually enjoyed that one.

Bazongas-zuljin · December 29, 2018, 5:05am

Not until I get my 3 last wins!!!

Then burn it to the ground. Forever. To death. Firm emphasis.

edit: make that 2 wins

Lunafreya-area-52 · December 29, 2018, 5:01pm

Please bring back Ashran as an epic BG <3

Muram-bronzebeard · December 29, 2018, 5:18pm

Keep the Ally gate closed for an extra 2-3 secs maybe on Isle. It’s always been stupid that they can reach the middle and pass the flag before the engagement even happens. The fight should be centered on the flag not towards the hoards fort with the Hoarde trying to long bomb AOE’s to keep the ally from claiming the point. The same is for the hanger by the time the Hoarde wraps around and starts to crest the hill there are already Ally sitting on the flag trying to claim it. Both sides should be able to meet at the points at the same time.

Bazongas-zuljin · December 29, 2018, 5:20pm

That’d be a pretty simple fix.

Worst case they could impede Alliance exiting the east gate for Hangar - the Horde’s east gate isn’t a shortcut to anything that powerful. There’s a little jump down spot right outside the east gate that leads up to the Hangar plateau. I’m sure an extra couple boulders would even things up, yet still allow passage to Quarry.

Shortheals-undermine · December 29, 2018, 5:58pm

I go to hangar on my Death Knight with faster mount speed and Alliance are already there and flag turned. How is that fair?

Inemia-rexxar · December 29, 2018, 6:59pm

if I take the best line to hanger straight from the start I get there just as alliance does, the problem is their main group arrives at the same time while the horde main group will be a few seconds. its not impossible for horde to reach hanger at the same time, they just don’t ride well enough on average.

Torturekilla-dalaran · December 29, 2018, 7:00pm

Wpvp is Ashran. Killing the other faction with bosses spawning on you.

Torturekilla-dalaran · December 29, 2018, 7:03pm

Plus, they use the advantage of us coming uphill. They are there a good 10-15 seconds before us, and we all book it, but you know that already.