As recently as either WoD or Legion (can’t say for certain).
Yea, times were different for both factions. It wasn’t until end of Legion/prepatch and bfa where Horde just started dominating AVs. Not sure Alliance now would agree to turtling IWB, would be interesting to see. Anyway off to lala land… good discussions as always! ![:heart:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/heart.png?v=6" ":heart:")
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Cya, same! I’l be having sweet dreams of AV/WG queues now. ![:grinning:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/grinning.png?v=6" ":grinning:")
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I’ve seen it tried once or twice in desperation. It doesn’t work.
It’s interesting … I hate the fact zerging is even a thing and am happy for it not to come back. With IB such a great spot to sit and farm alliance, I wondered for years why horde just didn’t bottleneck IB during the zerg years and watch alliance wipe over and over. Horde didn’t need to try and match zergs did they ?
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It’s called “scorched earth” was developed ages ago that with this strat horde could with nearly every av. Problem is the average pug doesn’t read up on this stuff and just become hive minded and stupid. Horde have all the advantages in av if they choose to use it. Alliance can overcome the horde advantage if the horde decide to attack leaving a window of opportunity but they get the shot call when to do it and we’ll lose every time if they do it with precise execution. Which is why horde won so many av’s in prepatch.
Right now i’m not seeing horde doing scorched earth, probably cause the extra content and people are doing other things now.
As for IOC it is the same issue horde used the same strat of attacking the same gate over and over. They forgot where the locations for firing glaives without getting hit… They do have 1, and alliance fully realise how powerful glaives are when unchecked. The people complaining here about IOC being unfair just don’t know those spots then come here to complain. Same thing with firing siege at boss’s horde can do it too, and yeah should be fixed. But both sides can do it, just horde side is a little more difficult cause of the shape of the building.
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I personally like the changes but really would like to see another 40 man at some point. Even IoC is quite old.
When Galv was weak, Alliance could pause for a few seconds to kill him and get the Galv buff, then use it to wipe Horde 40v40 at IB. This is why the Galv+zerg strat was dominant during Legion.
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well, more like zerg decade, as it was longer than that
as a vet of many games over the years, I can tell you that without a little help from the npc here and there, if they all group is organized (and back then while the might not have been organized, they certainly moved as a group) and move as a group enough of them can ride through and stealth through to the horde base unimpeded. ally put enough people in our base at the start of every game to simply end the competition.
the map is a funnel with the narrow bit at the top and the wide open bit in the south, it favors a north to south zerg whereas for Horde (south to north) we get increasingly drawn into a kill zone with that road and the small gap at spgy and the bridge and then finally the minefield of elite npc in the ally base
if zerging is allowed, horde eventually just get their spirits broken over time
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I’ve seen you say this a few times now. I’m not sure the captain buff does what you think it does.
The Galv Zerg strat won so much because horde often did not backcap and would leave bunkers alone so alliance would backcap them. The reason I won 50% of my AVs as horde even in this “alliance advantage” time period is because I’d call for a defend galv or defend tp strat from the start. If people listened, good chance we’d win since it threw alliance off.
I agree. The Galv zerg strat, when it was possible, did not guarantee an Alliance win; it just put the Alliance on an equal footing.
Okay the way you worded it had me confused “this is why the Zerg galv strat was so dominant” That strat was only dominant to bad horde players and bots/people who ignored objectives.
Feedback: Alliance aren’t queueing BGs, when they do we get utterly destroyed. It’s a waste of time playing anything EPIC when one side has all the PVPers and they all massively outgear you with their epic PVE gear.
Game is broken.
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Yep it’s totally gear. You got them.
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Well after a quick armory, you are running feral in the context of EPIC bg’s. It’s fairly obvious that’s your problem. I merc all the time on all my toons, and especially enjoy EPICS on my boomy on either side. Possibly try that, you may find it more enjoyable to put up 40k dps and actually be pivotal to the outcome of a match as a dps role.
Or alternatively, run as resto, and actually help win the battleground instead of just topping charts as boomkin.
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Both are important roles.
Uh…LOL. Workshop clash is literally decided by the volume and quality of the boomies on either side.
Epics tend to be won on raw number of healers, as they aren’t usually balanced the way smaller battlegrounds are.