Feedback: Epic Battlegrounds

Just a thought, but there is a Brawl in Arathi where a Blizzard reduces visibility of those around you. Is it possible to add such an event into AV where a Blizzard descends once every 5 minutes for 1 minute or something? Even make it longer once every 10 minutes for 2 minutes? It would fit thematically and also open up using new tactics during Blizzard phases to sneak past or ambush positions.

I am unsure the coding involved in all of this, but summoning Icelord or Ivus could have a similar effect. Once summoned the boss emits a shroud on the enemies half of the map reducing visibility making it much harder to effectively defend and adding a snowball effect.

Just something to add an additional element to play around since the Map itself is unlikely to change.
08/05/2018 03:23 PMPosted by Thunderçatz
Just a thought, but there is a Brawl in Arathi where a Blizzard reduces visibility of those around you. Is it possible to add such an event into AV where a Blizzard descends once every 5 minutes for 1 minute or something? Even make it longer once every 10 minutes for 2 minutes? It would fit thematically and also open up using new tactics during Blizzard phases to sneak past or ambush positions.

I am unsure the coding involved in all of this, but summoning Icelord or Ivus could have a similar effect. Once summoned the boss emits a shroud on the enemies half of the map reducing visibility making it much harder to effectively defend and adding a snowball effect.

Just something to add an additional element to play around since the Map itself is unlikely to change.


Now that is a cool idea!
Capping and defending objectives brings no rewards in Alterac Valley. Usually one of the lowest in honor and honorable kills.
Personally, I'm loving the changes to the 40 man Epic Battlegrounds. They feel WAY better now. However please review the following bugs in AV on Alliance:

- The ram quest in AV; does not work 100% of the time for the Alliance. Sometimes the rams go away when the Ali. player turns in the quest / ram; and sometimes the ram does not de-spawn. The ram will stay with the Ali. player even though they have another quest to get another ram.

- One other consistent bug is the summoning of Ivus; When 10 players click the summoning platform in the middle of AV's battlefield the summoning platform will bug out sometimes if more than 10 players clicked the summoning platform.

- The auto loot system does not work very well either in AV; We have to click the player, then click them again to claim all the loot sometimes. Sometimes the auto loot system works just fine.

- The turn in quest systems for the Alliance resources does not auto complete anymore; is this intended? Players have to click the quest dialog each time they turn in items to summon NPCs, etc....

- Ivus does not always move forward when reaching the middle of AV's battlefield; Is Ivus supposed to stay in the middle of the map for 10+ minutes if there are no Horde to attack? If so, the pacing of this system does not align with the current AV time frame.

- note: A lot of the AV quests for the Alliance seem to bug out at certain points. There are to many variants to confirm at what point the quests bug out, Blizz. team please test them internally a little more.

- Request: please adjust the quests in some way(s) to make them a little more comprehensive, and feasible within the allotted time.
08/05/2018 07:01 PMPosted by Wolfnore
Personally, I'm loving the changes to the 40 man Epic Battlegrounds. They feel WAY better now. However please review the following bugs in AV on Alliance:

- The ram quest in AV; does not work 100% of the time for the Alliance. Sometimes the rams go away when the Ali. player turns in the quest / ram; and sometimes the ram does not de-spawn. The ram will stay with the Ali. player even though they have another quest to get another ram.

- One other consistent bug is the summoning of Ivus; When 10 players click the summoning platform in the middle of AV's battlefield the summoning platform will bug out sometimes if more than 10 players clicked the summoning platform.

- The auto loot system does not work very well either in AV; We have to click the player, then click them again to claim all the loot sometimes. Sometimes the auto loot system works just fine.

- The turn in quest systems for the Alliance resources does not auto complete anymore; is this intended? Players have to click the quest dialog each time they turn in items to summon NPCs, etc....

- Ivus does not always move forward when reaching the middle of AV's battlefield; Is Ivus supposed to stay in the middle of the map for 10+ minutes if there are no Horde to attack? If so, the pacing of this system does not align with the current AV time frame.

- note: A lot of the AV quests for the Alliance seem to bug out at certain points. There are to many variants to confirm at what point the quests bug out, Blizz. team please test them internally a little more.

- Request: please adjust the quests in some way(s) to make them a little more comprehensive, and feasible within the allotted time.


There is a workaround with the bug for rams, just wait til the ram is actually in the stables before turning it in. Either way still needs to be fixed.

Also another bug I've seen in earlier posts is mines sometimes bug out and don't flip to horde or alliance. Some people think it might have to do with pets killing blow but no one seems to be sure.
I que at least one epic bg every day and haven’t been in one IOC since pre-patch. This seems highly improbable if there are only two BGs in this que.

Also adding TB or Wintergrasp to these asap would improve the epic bg variety greatly.
08/06/2018 07:58 AMPosted by Snapface
I que at least one epic bg every day and haven’t been in one IOC since pre-patch. This seems highly improbable if there are only two BGs in this que.

Also adding TB or Wintergrasp to these asap would improve the epic bg variety greatly.


I specific queue AV. Could be others like me?
Thanks for the tip Bloodrusher.

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Growing concern: I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm starting to think there is an issue with "pacing", or "game-flow" with AV. I'm happy the games are longer, and the players are starting to come up with different strategies. However I have yet to end a game after about 10 + AVs on Alliance where either the Horde, or Alliance kills the last boss. Hoping this is nothing more than the current gear, item levels, etc....
It's pretty difficult on good games for sure in AV.

In IOC it's kind of funny if your team is smart and your super behind you can still do a mass last minute zerg on the boss and still win.

Had several wins that way and Alliance being delayed as little as like 20 seconds being enough.
@Phalanx

Any plans to allow groups larger than 5 to queue up for epic battlegrounds?
Please don't let premade raids go against pug teams.
08/08/2018 08:04 AMPosted by Horrigan
@Phalanx

Any plans to allow groups larger than 5 to queue up for epic battlegrounds?
This. Could even start small, like 10-15 and see how it goes.
Please don't make it 2-3x easier for full premade raids to sync queues and get into the same AV/IOC.
08/08/2018 11:46 AMPosted by Forums
Please don't make it 2-3x easier for full premade raids to sync queues and get into the same AV/IOC.


Time to make epic BGs really EPIC!
You guys kick me out of Alterac Valley every time I leave to go to the bathroom. I try to be quick about it but i'm just not quick enough.

The place lasts like an hour or more now, you have got to give us more leeway for auto-kicking AFK if we need a break.

Please, just like 5 minutes instead of 2 or something for Epic Battlegrounds. I physically can't just hold it in every time.
08/08/2018 01:20 PMPosted by Floralee
You guys kick me out of Alterac Valley every time I leave to go to the bathroom. I try to be quick about it but i'm just not quick enough.

The place lasts like an hour or more now, you have got to give us more leeway for auto-kicking AFK if we need a break.

Please, just like 5 minutes instead of 2 or something for Epic Battlegrounds. I physically can't just hold it in every time.


Do you go to the BR after you die while ressing? You are only allowed to sit in the GY for like 20-30 seconds after ressing before autokicked by the game, not players. If you need to go, wait till you res and move like a foot or two out of spawn.
08/08/2018 01:24 PMPosted by Jugajr
Do you go to the BR after you die while ressing? You are only allowed to sit in the GY for like 20-30 seconds after ressing before autokicked by the game, not players. If you need to go, wait till you res and move like a foot or two out of spawn.
Maybe, I don't remember every time. Last time it happened I wasn't dead when I left but also... I mean it's AV, I'm not the one that decides when I'm gonna be sent to the graveyard. The other team usually decides that for me lol
08/08/2018 01:34 PMPosted by Floralee
08/08/2018 01:24 PMPosted by Jugajr
Do you go to the BR after you die while ressing? You are only allowed to sit in the GY for like 20-30 seconds after ressing before autokicked by the game, not players. If you need to go, wait till you res and move like a foot or two out of spawn.
Maybe, I don't remember every time. Last time it happened I wasn't dead when I left but also... I mean it's AV, I'm not the one that decides when I'm gonna be sent to the graveyard. The other team usually decides that for me lol


True. Just know that if you are in the gy ressing, don't go afk for even 1 minute then lol.
08/08/2018 01:20 PMPosted by Floralee
You guys kick me out of Alterac Valley every time I leave to go to the bathroom. I try to be quick about it but i'm just not quick enough.

The place lasts like an hour or more now, you have got to give us more leeway for auto-kicking AFK if we need a break.

Please, just like 5 minutes instead of 2 or something for Epic Battlegrounds. I physically can't just hold it in every time.


If you are a guy:

1. Have a supply of wetnaps near your computer.

2. Get the recall trinket if you don't already have one. Recall to base, get into Van's room and go stand in the back. RUN to the bathroom, bear down as you pee to make it come out as fast as possible and then RUN back to your computer.

3. Use the back of your knuckle to hit the space bar if some debuff is up. Use the wetnaps to wash your hands and get your butt back out there and kill hordies.

If you are a woman:

Just do step 2. I mean the wetnaps are nice and I have some for real but we aren't holding anything gross so c'mon. They're good for when I snack on something too.

I've only had to do it maybe a couple times but I've never been kicked out after a few minutes.
08/09/2018 06:51 AMPosted by Squeektoy
If you are a woman:

Just do step 2. I mean the wetnaps are nice and I have some for real but we aren't holding anything gross so c'mon.

O.O

The bathroom door handle?

The toilet cover/seat?

The toilet flush handle?

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Don't eat anything that's been handled by Squeektoy!