Feedback: Dark Ranger in The War Within

At least that was all in your power. I know the guy and we don’t do that. Forum engagement can be a full-time job with lots of overtime.

We can’t quite get there. We’re off the forums a good half of the time. Work, actually playing WoW, on Steam, on a certain FB alternative, the weird thing called “sleep”, w/e. Yeah, believe it or not there’s other social media that competes against our forum time. For all of our haters, that’s the silver lining: our overall presence is quite small.

Hanging around in Hunter caucuses is not a bad way to get some “XP”, but it’s no substitute for actually getting out there and doing some real things, like flexing dominance over R1 Areners in dual MM simulcast. You’ll actually find those who participate less in the forums. I’m just playing SoD casually until I can pick back up BG3.

My troll and mechagnome aren’t undead or elf/forsaken so i’m not a dark ranger. The name needs a change.

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To properly become a Dark Ranger, one must be raised in undeath. The same as Death Knights.

I overlooked this myself. This is a huge plot hole. To become a DKR, you would need a Warlock or DK to harvest your soul and it inhabits a suitable body. Has any of this process been datamined from TWW yet?

This then becomes an unlock method to use DK skins on non DK chars and everyone can get red eyes.

This is how blizz might handle it :stuck_out_tongue:

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Anyone who has ever been rezzed by a Soulstone or Raise Ally meets that criteria.

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The problem is Blizzard seems to be ignoring signal in favor of noise.

Hah. Who can remember back in WC2 and WC3 when transformations were a lot more than the cosmetic? You are rightly correct: who cares about the lore? :crazy_face:

That’s nice and all, but ever since the beginning, the DK was a class of specific skills. Skills that no other class really has except Warlock its progenitor.

Hmm…“less invasive” methods? A soulstone keeps a soul on this plane in storage, and Raise Ally would tether a soul back to its body.

You could argue there’s a difference in how the soul of a being is used. For Dark Rangers, first the soul has to be that of a true Hunter. Second, the Hunter tasted death and particularly no longer has a fresh and fit body. Third, a new body of vigorous physique receives the soul and voila. This was done for DKs in the manner of taking fallen Azerothian knights.

It’s odd that DKR could have been its own class, or that it could have been incorporated as a RDPS spec for DKs. Imagine rolling a DKR, and you’re in Sylvanas’ personal sanctum doing all the starter quests, but something happens when they can’t all serve the Banshee Queen. Not every DKR is going to be a hardliner of her agenda. Not unlike the Ebon Blade, the “Ebon Bow” is an independent class faction of some unknown faction leader(perhaps some old helf ranger general that did the Deckard Cain incognito) that has a place in both the Alliance and Horde.

And yet, can you imagine if this was done before Legion? The Dark Ranger class even gets ITS OWN CLASS HALL? You want to talk about how it could get nuts…Blizzard missed a great opportunity like that. They just had to bring Monks in instead…

One must kiss a lot of :frog:s before finding the charming :prince:? I’m sure that once they found their Prince Charming, the gratuitous frog kissing would end.

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No, that’s not ok. We are paying for a product, we shouldn’t settle for something that isn’t good because it might get better later.

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I know it’s not okay. I didn’t say it was. This has been s.o.p. for several expansions now, even to include Legion. It’s how BFA was called Beta For Azeroth, because launch was considered the open beta. Nowadays you don’t expect to play the true final version of an xpac until mid-cycle, but we do have MSoft now.

I guess it’ll take some time to break in their name-brand logistics. That would be nicer than letting the untrained community “beta test” the game as it is live from launch until N.1. or N.1.5.

Thought this thread was susposed to be about dark ranger feedback…some of yall just cant help but argue.

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Welcome to the internet!

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Sad but true.

What’s even sadder is that unless some famous PVE streamer such as Max or Tettles makes a semi-viral video saying it’s absolute trash, they will not act upon feedback from the forums. The most that can be realistically expected is for them to tune some numbers or slightly rework 1-2 talents.

But they’re not changing things such as the “aimed/barbed shot reset” mechanic, so no matter how good of improvements they do, they will still be based on a bad foundation.

During DF alpha, when the new talent trees were first shown, the Hunter tree feedback was overwhelmingly negative, much more than about any other tree revealed so far. A year and a few months later, of all classes hunters’ trees are the least changed.

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If I was a blizzard dev I wouldnt look to these forums for feedback either. Just look at this thread for example. It starts off with some feedback, then devolves into several splinter topics that have absolutely nothing to do with the original topic.

This is basically what just about every post turns into on these forums. I dont blame blizz for not coming here for feedback.

But back on topic…The dark ranger theme seems to lean much more into MM than BM. The synergy with MM makes sense to me for a dark ranger. But I just cant see a BM hunter being a dark ranger as it currently stands.

Even though the sub sub spec wont change the characters look. Itll still be odd to me to play this toon as a dark ranger orc hunter. Dark ranger is very elf like for me.

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I don’t think the class designers and developers read the direct forum feedback, because that’s inefficient (these are usually highly qualified and expensive employees whose time is already tight enough). Normally, feedback is summarized by the people who manage the forums, and the actual devs just get the bullet points.

Im totally with you, black arrow should just replace serpent sting to reduce button bloat. Or Something to reduce the bloat. Others suggested because BM doesnt have serpent sting to either add it or to make black arrow apply on steady shot or something.

Dark chains is also absolutely terrible.

:100:

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but BM doesn’t use steady shot either, so that’s still the same amount of “button bloat”

Not my fault. I pointed out that DKR as it stands makes AShot charges obsolete and that it doesn’t seem to emphasize abilities that are way more important than AShot, as Riokaii had made good points before I came back seasonally to commentate.

In a simpler way, AShot has been filler since Leg. Wow, that’s so awesome we’re making a filler ability “charge-less” with this.

But then, people came with their pro-AShot arguments and voila.

Blizzard can figure something out, they are a big company. No need for another button just to press every 30 seconds. Figure out a clever way to implement it.

Hunter needs a rework anyway so its a good chance to figure all this out instead of layering all these hero talents on a terrible foundation

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By God give this man some direct reports!