Favorite Loot Rules?

Looking into how we’re in phase 2 of WotLK right now, I’ve seen the very split choice and love for specific loot rules. MS>OS with or without +1, Loot Council, or GDKP. I think each loot style has their own benefits and downsides.

MS>OS: MS>OS is a more iconic loot rule. It prioritizes main spec users while those that want to benefit an off spec may have to take a hit as a downside. However, the key note I like about MS>OS that you can see everyone’s Main Spec roll for a piece of loot. While it can be annoying reading it in the in game chat, it makes many less suspectable to biased loot awarding, meaning in a pure pug scenario, you can’t reserve loot for a friend if only you and him had to pug eight or twenty three people, dependant on the difficulty.

GDKP: Basically the auction system loot rules. Before anyone gets any funny ideas, I’ll say this. Not everyone buys gold to participate in these. We don’t know the numbers for people that kept a character or played a character in Vanilla Classic and kept moving the gold up to WotLK classic. So there’s those players still out there that definitely benefit from a loot rule like this. However, those coming into the server fresh may have struggle with a raid like these and getting gear. Comes with the notion of an auction anyways.

RTC Loot Council: This is technically a more controlled version of MS>OS. Plenty of Loot Council builds I’ve seen use That’s My BiS (Though same can be argued for the other two) are better controlled. Though my downside is when people roll need, you don’t see roll of everyone else, running the risk of drama of bias loot giving.

But to my opinion on the loot rules, I’ll be honest as I’m old school in enjoying MS>OS with or without the +1. The +1 makes it a fair game for spreading out loot throughout a raid, especially if it’s fresh into the phase. This means that you have to pick your minor and major upgrades carefully, rolling need on the first piece being consequential.

I also prefer seeing who rolled what as to also make sure that the highest number DOES get the piece of loot. But if it’s a roll to joke around or to troll, I’ll get the chuckle as well. But while some argue it’s hard to do specific free rolls (Like the key if a raid decides not to make it reserved phase 1), then you can go “Group 1 roll first” and etc to keep track of the numbers.

At the end of the day, this is more of a post in listening to other people’s opinions and what loot rules they like best in Wrath Classic. Everyone will have their opinion at the end of the day but don’t make your opinion into a final say everyone follows sort of manner.

(Also using my Retail character as an icon because to lazy to switch.)

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Im a big fan of MS>OS with a +1 or 2.
Still allows open choice for rolling but does a good job of preventing one or two people from just hot rolling every drop.

Not a huge fan of DKP/EPGP systems. I dislike GDKP as well because it just feels like buying gear but thats my personal view.

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I enjoy and use loot council for guild raids and gdkp for pugs. I feel if the loot I need doesn’t drop, I can walk away with something in a gdkp pug setting. These groups are often better performers than other pug methods as well, so it’s a better use of my time when I want to play alts.

MS>OS +2 is pretty good or just MS>OS.

No reason to get more complicated than this. SRs are bad because everyone SRs the same good items so most of the raid is just MS>OS anyway. Might was well just make it all MS>OS with a limit.

Limits are kinda bad too because they force the same issues as SR.

I’m torn between SR and MS>OS. Both are OK.

LC is for noobs.

DKP is for scammers.

GDKP is for RMTers and gold buyers.

EPGP is the best managed system if you don’t want SR or MS>OS for some reason.

What are you using to judge your groups? Kill times, parses, or execution et

Generally prefer LC for guild groups.

Honestly from my experience the worst part of LC is actually being part of the loot council itself. A bunch of extra work getting things planned and figured out and you have to be careful when awarding yourself loot to avoid misunderstandings about corruption.

Clear time over everything.

I don’t typically do gdkp trade chat pugs either. They are discord signups with clear start times, so you don’t endlessly wait to fill.

Gdkp

You clear faster

You prog better

Only loyalty is to good players and good payouts

Get as much loot as you can afford

No weird guild drama

No having to raid on a schedule

If you have good logs most gdkp will take you

No “trial period” aka helping people you don’t know get loot what is this a job?

People go offline as soon as their “sr” doesn’t drop

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LC is the best when it works correctly. I’ve only known two groups to really ever get it right. LC requires a consistent group of players that understand the needs of the raid. There’s no room for ego centric people in LC, it spirals out of control very fast if this type of person is making the decisions.

For pugs I prefer GDKP but sadly my server doesn’t have any active groups. I usually settle for SR 1 item and MS>OS +1 on non-SR’d gear.

I would transfer if you can afford to waste the $$

It’s night and day if you aren’t on a good server

I like the community better here than the megaservers I’ve been on. Worth the trade off for not having easy access GDKP runs.

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I guess that’s fair

EPGP. Only downside is it relies on a consistent raid group, but I like it more than a pure LC

Anything but EPGP. Holy hell is that a trash system

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Loot Council - myself and three officers run LC for two 25 mans and 5 10 man runs a week and haven’t received one complaint since the launch of Ulduar.

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In favor of LC because he runs it…what a surprise.

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Hey, it’s the one I’ve found genuinely works best in guilds with differing opinions on where loot should go.

Then again, I tend to use a silent bidding style with low hard caps so people don’t get massive leads and when you don’t know what people are bidding, you aren’t guaranteed to lose items if you aren’t on top, and people can’t really bid you up without risking buying the item accidentally.

But communication is always key for any loot rules. If you don’t have everyone on page for them, then that’s also another ground for causing in game drama. Even if you can’t make everyone happy.

TMB+MS/OS+1

Make your list and if it drops you know who is getting it and when.

Everything not on a list goes MS/OS+1

We do have loot drama every so often on the MS/OS part…

Raider 1: “It’s a bigger upgrade for [Raider 2] give it to them”
Raider 2: “I just got [Item] and you haven’t gotten anything yet”
Raider 3: “It’s really better for you though, it’s not really the stats [Raider 1] wants”
Raid Leader: “If one of you doesn’t take [item] I’m going to turn this raid around right now and we’re doing naked naxx for the next two hours”
[Raider 4 (me)]: Naked naxx? LET’S DO IT!
Raid Leader: You stay out of this and just keep pulling trash.
sad bear noises