Stoneform only benefit is that you can top a dwarf off if a rogue is on him.
Not sure who balanced the racials, escape artist typically removes the 1 thing then you just get it reaplied to you anyway. It should last 5 seconds like WOTF.
Not even sure how the goat racials made it into the game, they are beyond bad.
Eh. Thankfully, I donât plan to PvP much at all - outside of, like, casual 5s to mess around and get AP (since my BiS weapons are Glad weapons) - and looks matter more to me anyway.
Still sucks though. Sometimes I cast GotN to not use mana and itâs just so⌠pitiful. A single mob attacking me tends to out-DPS the HoT. And while I donât think it resets the 5SR, I donât actually know if it does. It doesnât cost mana, butâŚ
It should be instant and scale with attack power or spell power depending on class.
Making it tick more frequently would be nice too. It doesnât have to be instant in that case, but itâd be nice.
FOR THE HORDE ! 
Itâs not Blizzardâs fault⌠I put the blame on all the meta-sheep who seem to think that this stuff really matters in the grand scheme of things.
So one horde player admits they play horde for the racials. Literally every single other horde player plays horde for looks or to play with their friends. And weâre supposed to believe that. Itâs very funny to see so many deny the obvious.
I have to agree. For me playing the âright raceâ has always been going through and picking the âbestâ but the best to me was always by my own defination IE in TBC I made my hunter draenei because I though healing my pet with a racial would be cool and I liked their beefy boi looks.
Legit way more classes are screwed over by orcâs 90% stun resist.
Classes with stuns and how many stuns they have.
Warlock 2x
Warrior 5x
Paladin 2x
Mage 1x
Druid 2x
Shaman 0
Rogue 3x
Hunter 2x
Priest 1x
So only 1 class not impacted by orc racial.
Will of the forsaken can be used effectively vs
Priest
Lock
Warrior
Perception can be used vs
Rogue
Druid
Overall the horde have better racials, i rate Perception as Very strong, but will of the forsaken as every bit as good.
Hardiness is also very strong, and thatâs ignoring the face they also have a built in DPS trinket in addition to their 90% resist to stuns.
Honestly a lot of PvPers went horde because thatâs where their friends went. Sure originally it mightâve been for racials, but as new and returning players come back they see âwow, all my friends are horde guess im playing hordeâ
then they hit 70, queue up for a half dozen bgs, realize it sucks and unsub
Also doesnât help that the honor gains are terrible; there is no way the gains were this bad in 2.0.
As for what to do; offer 2200+ players free transfers and top tier raiders free transfers to specific realms as alliance from horde.
Itâs gotta be limited to top players because thatâs how you fix the problem the alliance has; itâs the only way to attract competitive players back to Alliance.
A few months Later offer again if more need for alliance participation is present and lower the offer to 1850+ / 90% parse guilds.
If they were to offer to low rated players and âany one willingâ all we get are people looking to AFK, and thatâs the last thing a wounded faction needs.
How is it possible for one faction to cry this much? Perception the most OP? Are you dumb?
Idk why I asked if youâre dumb, this post clearly proves that you are lmao.
Itâs not like there was a tidal wave of streamers and guides pointing people in that direction, either. Everyone just happens to like Horde that also likes to PvP.
I play Alliance as an alt, and used to main it, and itâs just way more boring than Horde. Night elves are weird looking imo, dwarves are hideous, Draenei are too sexualized, (humans and gnomes i like and is what i play lol) but the âedgyâ races are way more fun to play.
I can definitely see how a faction that embraces blood magic, slavery, pillage, conquest, and the use of a magic plague to create more of its own species would also appeal to those who enjoy a PvP mindset. It has always made sense to me why there are more PvPâers on the Horde side than the Alliance. 
Thanks.
When Classic was announced, a bunch if guides were released. A lot of them said things like âorc warriorâ or âundead rogue.â
Since a lot of people canât or wonât think for themselves and do whatever a guide says, thatâs what they roll.
Horde aesthetics are disgusting. Iâm horde because my friends wanted to play horde, and I wanted to play a Shaman, which meant I had to play Horde before TBC.
I actually hate being a Horde though. Kyphosis running rampant, mud huts everywhere. I just want a regular roll of toilet paper!
Well care bear alliance love pve, itâs their safe space
And yet horde stack one faction on pvp servers so they are never in danger of being outnumbered or ganked. Talk about cowards pretending to be hardasses.
Meanwhile REAL pvpers went alliance cause we donât need racials to carry us