False reporting and automated ban

Gnocci-emerald-dream · February 9, 2019, 2:27am

Yeah, I am just going to virtually calmly put my hands up and back far away from you.

Gnocci-emerald-dream · February 9, 2019, 2:33am

You’re in luck, seeing as there is no such thing.

Mellga-area-52 · February 9, 2019, 2:33am

Oh, my dear friend Padre. We have gotten way off track, here. Let’s rewind and shorten this up a bit, shall we?

The main concerns of this thread:

“Automated” Silence System
However, we’ve established that we couldn’t find any proof, whatsoever, that there even is an “automated” system. If somebody has the source material, that be great! I searched and couldn’t find any official word on this “automated” system.
Penalties of the Silence System affecting Social Interactions, throughout Classic.

Are we all caught up, now? Anything outside of these two major points is irrelevant, and I will no longer entertain them. Please and thank you <3

Silence Penalty Source: https://www.wowhead.com/news=254115.2/new-silence-penalty-coming-to-world-of-warcraft

EDIT: Here’s a ScreenShot, that I took, of the Penalty Source that is a contradiction, that I would love Clarification on. Once again, I couldn’t find any official sources explaining the contradiction: https://i.imgur.com/kugvXnO.png.

EDIT 2: Contradiction being, as follows:

Silenced Players are unable to send Party Invitations.
Silenced Players are able to create Party and Raids.

Which is it?

Truesunn-zangarmarsh · February 9, 2019, 2:38am

It’s my understanding that there is talk of a “right click report” feature that, if activated X amount of times by X amount of players, will automatically ban the reported player.

Edit: https://youtu.be/9SbjASLwA34

Defac-aegwynn · February 9, 2019, 3:27am

Lol did this thread just get a hard reboot? I thought Williams killed it by saying that death row is a good example of appropriate use of impartial justice, even though there are many many cases of people being proven innocent after their execution, all to prove his opinion that being able to keep total a-holes from dropping racial epithets in general chat is somehow authoritarian.

Galdor-maelstrom · February 9, 2019, 3:27am

I like how the title of that video says it will kill Classic and he continually says could in the video. Subtle clickbait, Tips style.

He’s been wrong on multiple occasions in the past. Many months ago I watched a stream where he said he had an announcement, and wasn’t going to waste our time. He then proceeded to stall for 50 minutes before telling us he had confirmation from legit sources that Classic would be getting patch progression.

Truesunn-zangarmarsh · February 9, 2019, 3:55am

He’s not the only source I’ve seen mention this. With all the garbage going on in gaming these days, who knows…

anon44207803 · February 9, 2019, 4:00am

What you advocate for is essentially the same as a lynch mob. There is a reason why lynch mobs are illegal.

Yet here are Vanilla players condoning “name and shame” and public blacklists…which is also a lynch mob.

Double standard much?

Scharzula-earthen-ring · February 9, 2019, 4:14am

Who is condoning that. Not me. I think you are trying to paint it that way however. What I have repeatedly said is that it needs to be reported. Once its reported blizzard can do the punishment. What I was talking about was auto ignore. You would not be able to see what was said, so it would be away from your sight after the initial said hurt feelers. You said you want to punish people for doing what you think is wrong. That is not your job. With reporting and auto ignoring the offensive person goes away from your view. Now, you want to police the community and use your standards and your morals as a standard so you assume everyone else is going to think like you. I do not however think like you and I do not need you to police the community for me. I, as others also, have the ability to report and ignore people that I feel are offensive. Each person has that ability. You do not need to police the community for that reason. If a person is vile and slanderous or racist, then each person should report it that heard it, I know I prob would. But Its blizzards job to enforce that, and should not be enforce by some authoritarian who thinks we are all in a hive mind, because we are not.

anon44207803 · February 9, 2019, 4:23am

You said you want to punish people for doing what you think is wrong

Swearing in chat isnt what I think, its against the rules. A fact. And yes thats why I report them…so they STOP.

Now, you want to police the community and use your standards and your morals as a standard so you assume everyone else is going to think like you

.

My morals?

Try the TOS.

Ziryus-doomhammer · February 9, 2019, 4:30am

That would be fine if blizzard would actually do it. But they won’t and never did which is why we ended up with the system we have now.

One person is not policing the community. It takes multiple reports for action to be taken so it’s really the community policing itself.

And that’s why it takes more than one report for something to happen. Maybe you should stop thinking that your opinion is so important that everyone in chat should be forced to hear it without any possible consequences to you. That’s far more authoritarian.

Scharzula-earthen-ring · February 9, 2019, 4:30am

There was more to what you said.

This shows that you want to pass punishment, and not wait for blizzard to do so. If you say it is for immediate reasons to “protect” the public from seeing it they also have the report/ignore feature. I have stated before it might not be immediate, but if there were enough people reporting it it prob would be handled swiftly. Again, you are an authoritarian, you want to do the punishment. Thats why I refereed to the lynch mob. Because lynch mobs are the judge and jury before a person has his time n court. You wish to pass judgement before the person has his day.

Mellga-area-52 · February 9, 2019, 4:33am

Ziryus, Gucci and Aehl are not interested in the real topic. They keep derailing. I’ve already pointed out that all three of them are breaking the CoC themselves, and they can’t refute it. It’s already been gone over.

Scharzula-earthen-ring · February 9, 2019, 4:34am

So blizzard has the time to review posts after the offense but not before, that makes no sense.

He said he needs to have the silence put in place to protect others from seeing it. That is policing the community.

My opinion is just as valuable as yours, and others posting. I am not trying to be hostile. I am actually using words that have meanings to describe the situation logically. I am sorry If you take offense, its not intended.

Scharzula-earthen-ring · February 9, 2019, 4:35am

Thank you, and I agree. You have posted very well thought out and informative posts here. I agree pretty much in line with you.

Ziryus-doomhammer · February 9, 2019, 4:38am

/shrug you were the one who used the word authoritarian not me. And one person forcing comments upon others with no consequences is far more authoritarian than a community deciding they don’t want to hear that person’s comments.

Avarond-dalaran · February 9, 2019, 4:38am

It’s not being forced on you there is an ignore option.

Scharzula-earthen-ring · February 9, 2019, 4:39am

Authoritarian describes a type of person. It is descriptive. It is not harmful or hurtful. It is not used to attack. It describes the way the person acts.

Ziryus-doomhammer · February 9, 2019, 4:43am

Correct and it far more accurately describes the one person who thinks they should have a captive audience for whatever they want to say than the people who think that when the community as a whole wants someone to be quiet that person should be quiet.

Scharzula-earthen-ring · February 9, 2019, 4:45am

This is not true. I might not want what you want. Others might not want what you want. We are not captive to anything. We have the ignore feature. We have the report feature if needed. We are individuals. We are not Borg. Nice strawman tactic though.