Oh dear, I’m very sorry, Forums <3
I don’t know what “Minority Report” nor “Fresh Forum Avatars” means. You’ve mentioned “Fresh Forum Avatars” constantly, and I’ve asked you what this means, several times, and you still haven’t answered.
Again, I’m trying to tell my story, but you’re more interested in bickering than listening.
You’ll have to talk to the OP about this because, once again:
I. DID. NOT. MAKE. THIS. THREAD.
I’m suggesting, to you, to make the Report and DROP the “CS Forums” jargon because you’re preaching to the wrong the person. I’m only RESPONDING to it and having a DISCUSSION. That’s what we do, on the forums, right? We DISCUSS things. That’s ALL I’m doing. You are, in fact, SILENCING me, personally, from continuing this thread, on THESE Classic Forums, proving, once again, your authoritarianism.
You’ve already made this point. There’s ZERO reason to keep repeating it. The more you repeat yourself, the more I repeat myself, and that’s ALL this is. I can’t help but think you’re purposefully trying to derail this thread because you want it gone from the Classic Forum.
Which I think still fits with the Classic Forum because it’s talking about it’s potential issues, it may or may not ('cause it can go either way) have in Classic. Just like with Loot Trading, Sharding and Guild Banks. I’ve mentioned this already. Once again, you’re only interested in cherry picking at nonsensical parts of my posts. Stop it.
And I’m not being manipulated by anybody, sweetie. I already told you, I’m only speaking from MY personal experiences. Once again, please do NOT include me in stuff, I have no involvement in. I’m talking about me and ONLY me and sharing MY story. Not anybody else’s. Get that through your head.
Do you have any evidence that Blizz doesn’t listen to our “Suggestions”? Let me point out some old Threads complaining about PvP Servers BEFORE they became obsolete: (and here’s when Warmode took over; July 17, 2018):
For some reason I cannot post my proof nor evidence of the official date when Warmode was implemented. That was the “broken link”.
Created on June 13, 2016 (2 Years BEFORE the implementation of Warmode)
Created on December 30, 2015 (3 Years Ago)
And just for Aehl, a lovely poster talking about the SYSTEM of PvP Servers, yet they are NOW obsolete, so what say you now, Aehl, oh wise one that knows everything? Policies CAN change! Which is EXACTLY what I agreed to, Sir! And this Thread (talking about the Report System) is nothing more than a thread advocating for CHANGE!
Created on March 2, 2015 (3 Years Ago)
Created on August 31, 2016 (2 Years Ago)
Created on Dec. 25, 2016 (another 2 Years Ago)
Is that enough proof, of “suggestions”, for you, to realize change CAN happen, and that’s why you’re in a hurry to shut this thread down?
And if you don’t report it, how is it going to get moved over to the CS Forums?
Now, you’re being repetitive in a spammy manner. Remember, “Spam” means to repeat, constantly which you are repeating yourself, constantly within this same thread. You only need to say it once.
If I’m uniformed, how come you haven’t EXPLAINED further BEYOND the same jargon?
I didn’t say “free speech”, I said “speech”. A right to basic talking. Apparently, you cannot understand my clearly spelled out posts
I agree, and if they don’t understand, we should explain in a non-hostile manner.
Along with NOT assuming everyone is all on the same team. I, in particular, am speaking for me and ONLY me!
In this next Quote, I cannot quote Images, so here’s the link that Padrepwn provided:
OK, so you were WRONG about the Silence lasting only an hour, and I was right, even if I misinterpreted Studmuffyn’s post about “up to” 24 hours. The minimum is 24 Hours and is DOUBLED on a repeated offense, with NO maximum! Meaning, if it’s the THIRD offense, the penalty is 96 Hours. So, if an entire Guild Squelches one person, and it’s their first Squelch, that already eats up their 24 Hours. If they get Squelched, AGAIN (unjustly), it doubles to 48 hours
So the penalty time keeps increasing. In regards to what the Silenced person CAN do, is REPLY to Whispers from NON-Friends, but they won’t be able to INITIATE NOR RESPOND to the advertisements through Whispers (Initiating) nor the General Chats, which I feel would save more time than having to wait around and HOPING the stranger whispers you, first.
That being said, I guess you can cheat it by adding the Stranger as a Friend to initiate the Whisper, but I’m not sure how that works. I haven’t tried it, before
But it does state AFTER investigation, but that’s a Silence, right? Where’s the Squelch? 'Cause I’m here arguing about something that’s AUTOmated, NOT investigated
I’m not finding evidence of an AUTOmated system which is mainly what I’m fight against. So, perhaps somebody can find that proof, 'cause I can’t find it…thus I will apologize for my ignorance, on that regard.
Also, there’s a slight contradiction with the abilities and disabilities:
Under “Silenced Players Cannot”
Send Party Invitations
Under “Silenced Players CAN”
Create Party and Raids…
That doesn’t make sense…
I concur with that and do apologize because I see ZERO evidence about there being an AUTOMATED system. However, there IS a contradiction with the Penalty which could play a factor into the Classic experience, which I did point out.
Again, you don’t know if people’s stories are true or not, either. Enough with the “CS Forums”. We’re here to talk about Classic. I honestly do NOT believe this Thread belongs in the “CS Forums”. We’re talking about the Penalties, and its affects it may have in Classic. It’s NOT a CS issue. We’re discussing if the Penalties would hinder one’s CLASSIC experience. So enough about “CS”.
Because you keep cutting out important information. If you quoted it, in full, you would understand it better. Let me quote it in full, for you because context is important:
I’m talking about Abusers being AUTOmatically punished because you seem to equate them as being punished “equally”, when they’re not if those getting Squelched are being AUTO-punished.
But again, I may be wrong about the AUTO-punished because NOBODY corrected that part. Y’all were too busy nitpicking everything else
No, Authoritarian because there’s nothing in the Agreement nor CoC that suggests we cannot say X, Y and Z in certain Chat Channels. That’s your own Dictatorship.
See, this is why I need SPECIFIC examples. It took how long to FINALLY get a SPECIFIC exampled (which is all I ask) to note that you’re not totally crazy because I agree with you that non-stop “Thunderfury” spam, is indeed spam! It’s no discussion but non-stop linking which IS against the Agreement and CoC. It’s not even a discussion.
Yet, we had someone, earlier, talking about how “Non-Game” related discussion isn’t allowed in said Chat Channels. And I gave the example of talking about the different shades of colors being discussed in said Chat Channels, and how it’s NOT a reportable offense! Which I would categorize as AUTHORITARIAN!
It’s NOT difficult to give SPECIFIC examples. IDK why we had to go through ALL of this back and forth bickering, in order for you to give a legit example which is ALL I’m asking, in the first place!
Just TALK with me instead of being all hostile and negative for NO reason!
That’s fair, but Padrepwn PROVED the MINIMUM is 24 Hours and is then DOUBLED with REPEATED offenses.
We’re not pleading innocence, we’re talking about the PENALTY having an affect IN CLASSIC. Nothing CS can do for us, there.
How can you possibly miss it? It says right there?
I swear, and people think I’M not reading
Fair, I missed the AUTO part is NOT mentioned, so IDK how THAT rumor, got started. Still, the affects of the System may or may NOT be a problem in Classic, so let’s discuss it and go over it.
I’m not being disingenuous, that is all YOU, sir. May I re-quote what you just said and repeat, once more, your abuse of the system?
OK, so YOU said THIS:
Now, READ the CoC, CAREFULLY.
Aehl, YOUR intentions is to RESTRICT their Gameplay! You WANT them Silenced (restricted gameplay), therefore YOU are being disingenuous, dishonest and FALSE reporting, sir. YOU.
And if you don’t feel like you are, feel free to explain to me, what you mean, even though I know you’re full of it and didn’t get a good sense of you, the way you’re short and vague with me. You’re very distant and not expressing yourself FULLY. I don’t trust you, but I would NEVER sit on the sideline, hoping for you walk into the Gray Area and then REPORT, in hopes that “I got you”.
IK that you BARELY hide behind somewhat “justifiable” reports, and the best you have to offer is “bad language”, only shows to me, that you’re more interested in the punishment rather than the lesson learned. And you type with such smirk and smug, that IK it’s what you do, and you’re basking in the glory of all these “tears” you’ve managed to create.
You’re NOT reporting to protect the Blizz Policy. You’re reporting in the hopes of hindering one’s Gameplay simply because you don’t want people swearing, ever (no matter the context). But you hide behind Blizz Policy’s of “bad language”. I see right through you, and the best part is, you don’t deny it. You just keep repeating “Blizz Policy”.
You’re riding that hard line of being a horrible person. I only came to this conclusion because of how you interacted here, in THIS thread.
I was mainly upset about it being Automated which turns out is not true. Which I’ve already apologized for. However, unless somebody comes up with the proof that it’s automated, that argument is out the window.
Another concern, are the penalties of being Silenced and how it may interfere with Classic. I’m more than willing to discuss that, but we’re all too busy fighting each other, instead
Once again, there’s nothing in the Agreement that says X, Y and Z cannot be in those Chat Channels. And if your intentions behind your reporting is to SILENCE them, YOU are breaking the CoC.
If your intentions are to SILENCE them, than YOU are breaking the CoC and creating detractions. YOU are a problem! Along with everybody else utilizing the Report feature to INTENTIONALLY silence people.
Again, Aehl, I’m not talking about reporting people for “bad language”. However, like I said, I don’t think really care all that much about “bad language”. I think you care more about silencing people and are doing it oh so subtlety, to ensure your wicked deeds don’t get caught. Just give it time, Aehl. You may think you’re winning now but in the end, you will get caught.
The others, however, don’t have a good enough excuse. The ones I’m talking about said “Non-Game related Discussion”, “Talking about Trump/Politics”, “Religion”, etc. These are NOT topics under the CoC/Agreement by Blizz that are considered “inappropriate topics of discussion”. Therefore, they are policing the Chats and falsely reporting, in the HOPES (anticipating) that they get SILENCED! Which is AGAINST the CoC because they’re INTENTIONALLY trying to SILENCE them rather than reporting them because they are a “true hindrance to the game”.
And if I’m wrong, explain it, then.
You aren’t either. You give up QUITE easily. Especially with me. And I’m not giving up, nor do I plan to.
One SINGLE false flagger (that took you over an hour) who puts his gameplay on full display. We have a plethora here, who aren’t punished, yet. What say you bring forth evidence of more, or do you have just the one? 'Cause I provided a plethora of evidence about the PvP Server thing, took me less than an hour to find those. Writing these posts takes me an hour
I’m willing to look more into it. I’ve just been doing A LOT of research, on my own to defend myself with. Kind of hard to get all of it, in one day. I did try to search for a more official policy, by Blizz about this imaginary “Automated” system everybody seems to believe, but I can’t find it. Perhaps you can help me
Working Customer Service gives me real thick skin. All the false statements people make about me are fantastic
And you can’t report people with the intention to silence them, either.
Despite what I think of you, I still pursue truth, and this is the truth.
Suggest a different way to handle it, just like those that hated being ganked on PvP Servers. Thanks to them, PvP Servers are obsolete, and we have Warmode, now, DUH!
Same way we discuss GBanks, Loot Trading and Sharding. Why is this any different?
This argument doesn’t make any sense. You will have already seen the offender, even with your precious system into play. I don’t understand what you’re trying to argue
Unless it’s a “call to violence” speech, I don’t think words are really all that hurtful. You’ve seen how I’ve been treated around here (the forums, in general). Been called an idiot, troll, crazy, etc.
I’ve heard it, all my life, it has no affect on me, anymore. Unless it’s a threat (call to violence), it’s against the law (at least in the USA). That speech is NEVER OK.
As I told Aehl, it’s a call to violence which is NEVER OK. Threats are NOT protected, not even in the US Constitution.
You, of all people, misrepresenting the story. He’s not in jail for Trolling. He’s in jail for THREATENING (call to violence) Blizzard. That Speech is NOT protected, under US laws. It states that he lives in the US, and that Speech, alone, is NOT protected, in the US. CLEARLY, he doesn’t understand his rights
Because it’s not about the person swearing. You want them SILENCED! I see right through your smoke and mirrors, Aehl. You don’t fool me.
More evidence that it’s not about swearing but the silencing
Squelching - Disables one from utilizing certain aspects of the game.
Blacklisting - Doesn’t really disable one from certain aspects of the game.
You had no business being in this thread, in the first place. That, and you have no argument
But you have accused ME, personally, which I already addressed. I just wanted to clarify, that.
I’m hurt. I didn’t get a show
I gave you proof on how the PvP Server System changed. It may take time, but if enough people continue not being chased off by people like you, it’ll happen. That’s why you keep trying to shut this thread up.
I’ve been researching, myself, all day, strictly, for this topic. And I will continue to do so because you don’t scare me. IK my rights.
Bingo!
But I just typed all of this up, for you