I’m not Ziryus, but nope.
People need to remember: Blizzard sees everything you do in-game. You and your buddos decide to right-click report someone for grins’n’giggles? Guess what – you’re going to get caught, and you’re going to pay for it.
Will it be instant? No. But it’s already happened, in one documented (ie, on the old CS forum) case, and two anecdotal ones I was told of among acquaintances.
BTW, using sites that Blizzard does not control to “name and shame” will likely be happening, so it might behoove some to adjust their behavior so they avoid finding their names on those sites.
Setting up and using an off Blizzard site to smear other players is
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I do want to state, that I do agree with you, on this point alone. I still disagree with you, on the other point, though. I don’t like people following hearsay, but I, also, don’t like non-stop reporting, like what is going on to warrant frequent plethora of Reports?
We both want classic to be the best possible experience, it’s just that we have a very different way of seeing how that should be done.
I want that experience for you too. Yes I was opposed to it, yes I was wrong.
In all truth, Mr name and shame up there will do more to push people away than anything else.
a single instance of something that turns out to not be against the CoC? no, repeated reporting ? yes, too many people are trying to put it out there that false reporting is never punished and that needs to stop.
Huh? not sure what that has to do with what you quoted,lol.
I was beginning to think, you didn’t have any humility, guess I was wrong.
Ofc anyone who will misqoute someone to change the context of what they said to support their own view doesn’t want an auto squelch.
They act like that on a public discussion forum when its in black and white?
I’d bet their ingame behavior isn’t much better and they know they will be squelched.
What would require more GMs, X number of individually written reports about a players antics in a public channel as done in vanilla, or 1 squelch created by X number of players due to the same antics? I am all for a GM reviewing squelches (and punishing egregious reports) but I cannot grok just how you figure that more GMs would be required for squelch reviews than the old manual reports.
edit: or did I misunderstand your post?
No more than colluding with your friends and guild mates to squelch another player, even if that player broke no rules.
Why do you think that colluding with your friends and guild mates to squelch another player is perfectly fine, but calling players out for their less than desirable behavior is not?
Double standard much?
Note: I am not, in any way, condoning “smearing other players”. I am simply pointing out that some people feel it is OK for them to target another player with harassment under their conditions, but insist that the system protect them.
I expect that “naming and shaming” and “blacklists” will still happen, at the very least on sites that Blizzard cannot control. The auto squelch will likely do nothing to prevent “naming and shaming” or “Blacklists”.
That may be. Unfortunately, neither you nor Blizzard can do anything about it, though.
I neither condone not condemn those other sites. I merely acknowledge that they will likely occur.
I sincerely hope that if you decide to set foot in classic, you learn to alter your behavior so that you do not find your name o those other sites.
A major point to remember is that even if Billy and crew add Johnny’s name to one of those off sites, the other players still have the option to make their own decisions as to whether it was warranted. If Johnny is squelched by Billy and crew, however, the option for other players to make their own decision as to whether Johnny actually did anything wrong is taken away from those other players.
However, with the new system, johnny get’s to appeal to blizzard and blizzard can view logs and take action if needed. With blacklists, you have to rely on people to believe your word over billy and his crew.
I’ve already stated that I fully support Blizzard reviewing reports and taking whatever action is appropriate, if any action is warranted.
I simply do not agree with giving players the power to take that action.
All players will have the ability to do is cause a temporary squelch. Yes that may limit their ability to do some things at the time but they still have the option to play. Allowing players to be a nuisance in chat channels can hinder others by limiting how many people can view what they or others say.
By going back to the old system you are giving a single player the ability to disrupt the actions of multiple people. With the new system it requires multiple people to coordinate to disrupt 1 person.
Actually it isn’t unless you try to avoid the chat filters. If you don’t want to see foul language turn on your language filter.
Wrong, the filters do not excuse you from the rules. Blizzard says NO Foul language, filter or not.
Blizzard says NO Foul language
I love when language is policed. I have a dream that players would /ignore players that they feel are disruptive. Instead of utilizing some mob justice punishment system.
And yet you guys are fine with Blacklisting and Name and Shaming…
One of those systems is automated and the other requires actually reading. They’re not the same but they accomplish the same goal. Blacklists don’t have to be public, although they usually are. It may seem strange but back before sharding/cross realm BS your name actually meant something so Name/Shaming was actually encouraged indirectly by Blizzard.
“A sincere diplomat is like dry water or wooden iron.”
I could change Diplomat with political discussion and it would fit this pretty well.
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”
Same with this, honestly, yes people are going to troll and talk about things you may not like in chat. But see, i never got this whole hive mentality of just banning /muting people, So what people talk politics in trade, they also talk about kids puppys car’s etc, i’m not going to mute em, or want em to get banned because the next day they may talk about something else. Something i enjoy, it’s like… You people fear trolls, that the VERY thought of tolerating them is nothing short of madness.
Is it just a irrational fear? Wanton hatred or what? Do you just dehumanize them or something? I can’t wrap my head around it, If what they said breaks TOU that’s fine, but just talkin about something that you don’t like…? What’s happened did we all just forget tolerance? Or just simply the fact that discussion of topics you don’t agree on or make you feel a little uncomfortable, you can ignore? There isn’t a need for malice, that’s what the reporting system is i feel, malice, but in itself but with human intent behind it, that’s what it will become.
I’d rather see people talk about politics, trolling etc. Then allow an innocent bystander be at risk for getting banned, for being at the wrong place wrong time, or just over some personal vendetta. I understand not everyone can agree or wants this, but there IS a middle ground, you can IGNORE those people. Honestly the only way some one annoy’s you on the internet on this platform is if you let them.
I don’t want to sound rude here but, i feel like people who share the mindset you do are going out of there way to become victimized for no other reason besides some corrupt form of retribution. I see someone make a comment i don’t agree with, well why should i care? I see some one who gives death threats i ignore em or report em.
(Also no, i don’t mean this just for you i meant this for everyone in this topic.)
What’s happened did we all just forget tolerance?
I don’t want to sound rude here but, i feel like people who share the mindset you do are going out of there way to become victimized for no other reason besides some corrupt form of retribution. I see someone make a comment i don’t agree with, well why should i care? I see some one who gives death threats i ignore em or report em.
Tolerance, critical thinking, and skepticism. If we want to generalize the issue it’s a failure of our education system and society to prepare young adults for real life.