False reporting and automated ban

[Fesz-cenarius]

I find it hysterically amusing that to these people, right click report is “mob justice” but “name and shame” and “public blacklists”…arent.

I think we may have found the root cause of this poster’s insistence that he be given the option to collude with his friends and guild mates to squelch any other player for any reason.

Is it possible that he knows that his behavior is likely to earn him a spot on those “blacklists” or being “named and shamed” and is looking for way to protect himself from the consequences of his behavior?

If that is his fear, even the right click report will not save him, as those blacklists and any naming and shaming will likely be done out of game on sites that Blizzard cannot control.

[anon44207803]

I do NOT agree with player being given the option to collude with friends and/or guild mates to auto squelch other players for whatever reason they want, even if the player they are trying to squelch never broke any rules.

Yet to date I have never heard of this happening.

Link the right click report to an auto ignore, not an auto squelch, and let the GM’s review and determine what action, if any, is necessary.

Doesnt work like this on live, wont work like this in Classic.

[anon44207803]

Is it possible that he knows that his behavior is likely to earn him a spot on those “blacklists” or being “named and shamed” and is looking for way to protect himself from the consequences of his behavior?

So in one case it isnt mob justice, and the other is? Kinda a double standard, dont you think?

[anon44207803]

If that is his fear, even the right click report will not save him, as those blacklists and any naming and shaming will likely be done out of game on sites that Blizzard cannot control.

Thats the definition of mob justice, mate.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Is it possible that he knows that his behavior is likely to earn him a spot on those “blacklists” or being “named and shamed” and is looking for way to protect himself from the consequences of his behavior?

So in one case it isnt mob justice, and the other is?

Looks to me like I was right.

Looks to me like someone doesn’t want to have to face the consequences for their behavior.

BTW “name and shame” is called targeted harassment.

Colluding with your friends and guild mates to squelch another player isn’t targeted harassment?

BTW, using sites that Blizzard does not control to “name and shame” will likely be happening, so it might behoove some to adjust their behavior so they avoid finding their names on those sites.

[Fesz-cenarius]

I do NOT agree with player being given the option to collude with friends and/or guild mates to auto squelch other players for whatever reason they want, even if the player they are trying to squelch never broke any rules.

Yet to date I have never heard of this happening.

You’ve never heard of it happening in a game where player reputation means nothing? It’s happened, but it is not as common as it will likely be in classic.

In classic, where player reputation is everything, though? I expect that players attempting to auto squelch other players will be much more common.

[Williams-akama (Williams)]

I find it hysterically amusing that to these people, right click report is “mob justice” but “name and shame” and “public blacklists”…arent

Yes but not as interesting as a guy whom doesn’t care about Classic WoW who vocally opposed it posting on the Classic WoW forums.

Because that is amusing.

Seriously, what do you care about what system exists in a different game than the one you play? You’re not interested, you said so yourself.

So why are you actually here if you plainly dislike Classic, and have no desire to play a game of the past.

The future and all its supposed improvement is here already just for you and its called BFA.

[anon44207803]

In classic, where player reputation is everything, though? I expect that players attempting to auto squelch other players will be much more common.

Nah I dont think so.

Colluding with your friends and guild mates to squelch another player isn’t targeted harassment?

Colluding with your friends and guild mates to smear another player isn’t targeted harassment?

Mate: all you are doing is proving my point. You have a problem with one but not with the other.

Double standards.

So why are you actually here if you plainly dislike Classic, and have no desire to play a game of the past.

I had considered it. Burt given what I see here…no. Ill also be making sure to show this entire conversation to anyone I see and talk to.

[Difford-nagrand (Difford)]

So why are you actually here if you plainly dislike Classic, and have no desire to play a game of the past.

Probably because GD isn’t rising to his baits over there.

[Williams-akama (Williams)]

people are punished for false reports, really need to stop trying to push that line.

How do you quantify harassment or offensive language?

It’s a serious question in this modern age, please detail this carefully because the world does want to know.

[anon44207803]

They have more sense, actually.

In any case, Ive seen what I needed to see.

Done.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Not everyone in the Classic community is as toxic and negative as Williams and crew. They’re just loud voices on a forum where they’ve chased away most of the viewpoints opposite of theirs.

[Difford-nagrand (Difford)]

Not everyone in the Classic community is as toxic and negative as Williams and crew.

Don’t be so hasty to judge. I’ve read your comments in passing too. Something about those in glass houses?

[Mellga-area-52 (Mellga)]

Not everyone in the Classic community is as toxic and negative as Williams and crew. They’re just loud voices on a forum where they’ve chased away most of the viewpoints opposite of theirs.

I would like to understand, and how you came up with the notion that “Williams and crew” (I’m assuming I’m part of the “crew”, part 'cause I just so happen to be in alignment, with their viewpoint) are “toxic”. Genuinely curious how you came up with that 'cause I’d like to know what was said, so I can avoid doing it, in the future.

[Williams-akama (Williams)]

Ya know what even tho I don’t agree with much of what you say, at least you actually want to play Classic. That’s at least respectable vs that Aehl guy.

You may think I’m toxic, and you may think I have a crew, but I am just one guy who wants the same old game back without any modern-day junk included.

This would be different if old Blizzard was still old Blizzard,but it’s not, and I plainly do not trust Activision to do anything. It’s very obvious that they will ruin anything via good intentions or grand negligent action.

Think of me how you like, it’s just a simple fact that most people interested in Classic WoW are like me and distrust modern development, modern companies, and do not actually want the game changed from its 2004 to 2006 original features and functions.

[Mellga-area-52 (Mellga)]

Ya know what even tho I don’t agree with much of what you say, at least you actually want to play Classic. That’s at least respectable vs that Aehl guy.

You may think I’m toxic, and you may think I have a crew, but I am just one guy who wants the same old game back without any modern-day junk included.

This would be different if old Blizzard was still old Blizzard,but it’s not, and I plainly do not trust Activision to do anything. It’s very obvious that they will ruin anything via good intentions or grand negligent action.

Think of me how you like, it’s just a simple fact that most people interested in Classic WoW are like me and distrust modern development, modern companies, and do not actually want the game changed from its 2004 to 2006 original features and functions

Apparently we’re a secret clan, even though I just met you LOL

[Mellga-area-52 (Mellga)]

But I did, also, want to mention, I did disagree with your post. You do not speak me ;p

EDIT: That’s OK, we can’t always agree on things

[Williams-akama (Williams)]

But I did, also, want to mention, I did disagree with your post. You do not speak me ;p

EDIT: That’s OK, we can’t always agree on things

That’s fine by me, at least it’s a civilized discord. And welcome to the secret society…

Do we have a secret handshake? These are very important details, I don’t want to get stuck at the door!

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

No, I don’t consider everyone in alignment with their views to be part of their crew. I don’t think I’ve had an issue with your posts here, or at least I don’t remember responding to anything you’ve posted. I’m not at odds with every no-changer on this forum; I’ve liked plenty of posts from Xecks, Sabetha and others.

[Williams-akama (Williams)]

No, I don’t consider everyone in alignment with their views to be part of their crew. I don’t think I’ve had an issue with your posts here, or at least I don’t remember responding to anything you’ve posted. I’m not at odds with every no-changer on this forum; I’ve liked plenty of posts from Xecks, Sabetha and others

We have more in common than we dont.

We both want classic to be the best possible experience, it’s just that we have a very different way of seeing how that should be done.

Players against changes like me distrust Activision entirely. We don’t want anything they have made since original Classic because it’s not authentic and because Activision will somehow make a mess out of it.