False reporting and automated ban

Still no blue input on this at all? Wow you’d think they would come in here and say this is how it works. This is what is affected. Nope. Just sit back and watch the ants toil away. Lol

“We have to get better at communication”. Continues doing the exact same thing. Lol.
I’m starting to think this is all pointless. Why give them communication when it’s not reciprocated?
Borny swoops in his first day and then? Crickets…

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Correct, which is why no sane GM would suspend anyone for simply posting LFG, LFM, or anything of that sort in trade unless they are spamming it nonstop because it’s fairly common knowledge seeing “LFM DM pst” is an acceptable thing to say in trade.

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Once a week is enough, they only need to show a presence and deliver quality information direct from the developers.

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I don’t know if I’ve ever said that. On a personal level, I care absolutely nothing about what people say in-game. I’m not offended by naughty language or memes.

However, I greatly despise Gold Seller Spam. The auto-squelch was primarily introduced to combat that and if the auto-squelch is removed, you can almost certainly be guaranteed that the Gold Seller Spam will be much more prevalent.

Especially since we’re not going to have the WoW token purchasable from the auction house. Gold Spam is already going to be an issue and without the ability to remove those spammers from chat in a very timely manner, they will be far more successful in their ability to communicate their messages to a wider audience.

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From what that article says, it just seems like there is no “squelch”. There’s just a single silence. The GM doesn’t need to increase it, as it increases on it’s own as the player is silenced again and again. Though, if what the player said was bad enough, I do imagine the GM would impose something more. But, I don’t think it’s an increase to the silence, I think it would be an actual suspension.

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I never said it didn’t.

I cannot say how it works for Blizzard GM’s, but speaking from my own experience, every job I have held has had at least a general set of standards that apply to every person doing that job.

I held many positions during my days of employment, including many for my last employer for whom I worked over 26 years. In every one of those positions, I had some leeway to make my own decisions, but I had to be able to justify the decisions that I made, especially I took that leeway “too far”.

As I said, I will not say that I know how Blizzard handles their business. I am going to guess, however, that there is at least a general set of standards as to what is considered “spam” and that while each “ticket decision” is in the hands of the GM reviewing that ticket, overall those decisions will fall within a defined spectrum, with very few outlier exceptions.

I suspect that the same cannot be said for decisions made by hundreds of thousands of players.

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I agree the gold seller spam is indeed obnoxious; sorry I may have confused your concerns with those of others.

What do you think of this concept to eliminate the spammers?

Require a purchase of Classic WoW and naturally the subscription cost. Purchase cost for Classic should be 60 dollars just as it was, and require the player to also have a subscription in game. Generic WoW sub

The reason for the purchase price is very very simple; this harms the gold traders by eliminating their ability to easily get into the game and “Try it out” just for the use of spamming chat.

Players who want to play classic and see what its about can always watch a stream or something, they don’t need free access to an old game.

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This particular thread is 19 days and counting. It is obvious none of us know exactly what is affected in the current game let alone try and figure how it could work in classic.
I’m not even saying talk about classic. I’m saying come in here with an official post showing exactly how it currently works. Maybe answer a few of the questions that can be answered. That is not asking much. Then again maybe we should be asking in CS.

Seriously 19 days of “no this is how it works!” Little ridiculous considering it’s currently used and Google turns up old links?

Sorry once a week communication? Sorry the Pony Express went out of business over a century ago. Communication is not just a one way street. Nor is it always on a time table. Only reason we got communication when Yth got laid off is because the forums were starting to catch fire over it.
He did a great job of calming that too. No denying that. This here. Shouldn’t be some secret I have to access the dark web to find. It’s currently in use. Lol

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Pretty fun for me no ignore option shows the true colours of the community because now they have to deal with each other.

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Hmmm, I don’t know. It’s an additional fee that hits everyone, whereas the abuse you fear from the auto-squelch, I still believe is going to be very rare.

Only if blizzard blocks name changes.

I looked through the old forums, but they are locked and half the features seem to be broken. But I distinctly remember there was a a topic about it (before it was implemented) with more or less the same concerns as here and a Blizzard poster assured everyone it went through a human first. Then the patch was released and in less then 24 hours, love him or hate him, Asmongold proved that was wrong, but many others confirmed it after him.

I am not saying the CM was maliciously lying to everyone, they themselves were probably unaware how it worked and were merely doing damage control, but in the end it still showed it was automated.

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As i recall asmon either misunderstood that there were clearly parts of the system that were automated or was just trying to troll(knowing him probably the latter).

And then when he got actioned intentionally he tried to act like he had caught blizzard in some massive lie when it really his own fault.

And yet we still have hypocritical posters that say they’re against the squelch (which they say can be abused to prevent people from playing the game effectively), and are in favor of server blacklists (which can be abused to prevent people from playing the game effectively.)

If blacklists are allowed, auto-squelch should be allowed.

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As opposed to hypocritical posters that insist that players be able to conspire to squelch any other player at any time for every little slight they think they had to suffer, but oppose blacklists and insist they not be part of the game?

That couldn’t possibly be because they are worried about possibly ending up on those blacklists, though, could it?

I neither condone nor condemn blacklists. I do, however, expect that there will be third party sites over which Blizzard has to control that will have blacklists available for viewing.

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And 10 years later, those concerns never became a reality. Calm down, you’re all obsessing over a system that the majority of players don’t even know exist in this game, and judging by the uproar on the forums, went a very long time not knowing.

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If the majority of players do not know the system even exists, then they will not miss it if it is not implemented in classic, or if it is implemented with adjustments to make it more difficult to abuse.

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Well it still exists for a reason for those times that reporting someone is justified.

Slippery slopes are considered an argumentative fallacy for a reason. We’re not all getting banned on live, there’s nothing to worry about. Calm down.

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The conditions on Live are radically different from those in Vanilla. First, the reasons to abuse the system don’t exist in BfA. There’s no competition for anything. There’s no scarcity in anything. Secondly, the repercussions from getting squelched are nearly irrelevant in Current WoW. Whereas they’re game-breaking in Classic.

It’s a completely different gaming experience that requires a different moderation approach.

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This has been around since wrath… We’ve had 10 years to abuse it, and it hasn’t happened

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