False reporting and automated ban

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

/shrug as a white male I don’t really need a day to whine about my problems because I have it better than pretty much everyone.

really. that whole much higher suicide rate isn’t of concern?
the fact that a woman is infinitely more likely to get child custody isn’t of concern?
the fact that a man who is a victim of assault by a woman is laughed off isn’t of concern?

Compared to issues faced by women, no, not really.

we literally focus on womens issues nearly every day of the year these days. what is wrong with ONE Day to focus on mens issues? one day a year? that was too much to ask?

btw, go ahead and list some of these issues women face.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

if i’m trying to form a raid, how am i going to get people to join if i can’t broadcast in public channels, thus getting people to respond to me?

Invite a friend and have them broadcast for you. It’s really simple.

If you’ve been unfairly put on the server blacklist and nobody trusts you, how are you going to form a raid, even if the people that put you on the blacklist lied, and you have no evidence to refute the claim?

and if i don’t have a friend online at the time? look all i want gone is the auto squelch. let blizzard investigate the situation when the reports pile up, and then take action.

[Fallanaa-area-52 (Fallanaa)]

and if i don’t have a friend online at the time?

Then patience is a virtue.

If you’re on the blacklist, you won’t be able to raid either.

Identical.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

and if i don’t have a friend online at the time?

Then patience is a virtue.

If you’re on the blacklist, you won’t be able to raid either.

Identical.

all i’m asking is for the auto squelch to go away. is that too much to ask? to prevent it from being ABUSED? i mean for the love of god, i don’t support people abusing the black list.

[Fallanaa-area-52 (Fallanaa)]

And I want server blacklists to be Blizzard actionable on those who make & use them.

So, if the auto-squelch goes, people can be banned for using a blacklist?

Deal?

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

And I want server blacklists to be Blizzard actionable on those who make & use them.

So, if the auto-squelch goes, people can be banned for using a blacklist?

Deal?

no. because all you need is to make both not be abused. that’s my deal.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

And I want server blacklists to be Blizzard actionable on those who make & use them.

So, if the auto-squelch goes, people can be banned for using a blacklist?

Deal?

you don’t get rid of an entire system because a portion of it is abused. you fix the abuse of it.
funny how you only want to get rid of the abused portion of yours but want to completely get rid of black lists in general.
that’s not a fair trade at all.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

/shrug as a white male I don’t really need a day to whine about my problems because I have it better than pretty much everyone.

really. that whole much higher suicide rate isn’t of concern?
the fact that a woman is infinitely more likely to get child custody isn’t of concern?
the fact that a man who is a victim of assault by a woman is laughed off isn’t of concern?

Compared to issues faced by women, no, not really.

we literally focus on womens issues nearly every day of the year these days. what is wrong with ONE Day to focus on mens issues? one day a year? that was too much to ask?

btw, go ahead and list some of these issues women face.

Nah you’ve already sufficiently derailed the thread.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

The auto-squelch is core to their CS operations.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

and yet still has potential for abuse.

So do server Blacklists, and yet the same people that are against squelch are for blacklist.

Does not compute.

one is maintained purely out of game and doesn’t prevent someone from doing stuff.
the other is maintained in game and does prevent people from doing stuff.

Yes which is why the auto squelch is an actual effective deterrent.

except it CAN BE ABUSED.

i could see you trying to form a raid and realize that would cherry pick people who would join my raid, so i get everyone in my raid to right click report you. boom. now you can’t make your raid group anymore.

And then blizzard steps in.

yep blizzard steps in. after i’ve already got my raid going and you can’t.

And then blizzard actions you for abusing the report system and your raid goes nowhere

if you think that blizzard is going to step in in time to stop the raid your sorely mistaken, those things normally take at least a full day to get answered.

So we’re back to the whole blizzard can’t enforce things which in turn means that you just want to go back to chat being a place that can be freely trolled.

no. i don’t. i just think the auto squelch should go away. right click report can still ignore, but to prevent abuse blizzard reviews the situation and then takes appropriate action.

Which you just said they are incapable of doing in a timely manner.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

/shrug as a white male I don’t really need a day to whine about my problems because I have it better than pretty much everyone.

really. that whole much higher suicide rate isn’t of concern?
the fact that a woman is infinitely more likely to get child custody isn’t of concern?
the fact that a man who is a victim of assault by a woman is laughed off isn’t of concern?

Compared to issues faced by women, no, not really.

we literally focus on womens issues nearly every day of the year these days. what is wrong with ONE Day to focus on mens issues? one day a year? that was too much to ask?

btw, go ahead and list some of these issues women face.

Nah you’ve already sufficiently derailed the thread.

actually it was derailed by someone else. i just responded to a false claim.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

The auto-squelch is core to their CS operations.

and can be abused to high heck.
why do you think i am against it?

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Can be and will be are two different things.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

The auto-squelch is core to their CS operations.

and can be abused to high heck.
why do you think i am against it?

Because you want to troll public chat channels?

[Gojira-nordrassil]

They are not hate groups. Maybe look into them using sources that aren’t anti-BLM, or against Antifa.
The group you mentioned is a far right wing group with deep ties to the Republican party (even though it was started by Democrats, it has now migrated to the Republicans. As the parties have switched Liberal/Conservative positions, the 3K’s have remained Conservative).
Also, there are neo-nzis running for office under the GOP, and they are winning primaries (meaing they are beating non-nzis who are also Republican). Sure, there are those in the GOP that have spoken out against these (and other) groups, but many of the votes for Republican officials come from members of these groups.
Also, don’t forget that Steve Bannon was Trump’s White House Chief Strategist.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Can be and will be are two different things.

considering people have reported it being abused in BFA? yeah.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

The auto-squelch is core to their CS operations.

and can be abused to high heck.
why do you think i am against it?

Because you want to troll public chat channels?

no, i don’t generally post in public chat channels. i just don’t like abuse-able systems or broken stuff.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

They are not hate groups. Maybe look into them using sources that aren’t anti-BLM, or against Antifa.
The group you mentioned is a far right wing group with deep ties to the Republican party (even though it was started by Democrats, it has now migrated to the Republicans. As the parties have switched Liberal/Conservative positions, the 3K’s have remained Conservative).
Also, there are neo-nzis running for office under the GOP, and they are winning primaries (meaing they are beating non-nzis who are also Republican). Sure, there are those in the GOP that have spoken out against these (and other) groups, but many of the votes for Republican officials come from members of these groups.
Also, don’t forget that Steve Bannon was Trump’s White House Chief Strategist.

so when a group marches down the road yelling “Pigs in a Blanket, Fry em like bacon” that isn’t spreading hate?
and the group mentioned has since been renounced. congrats.

btw nzis are socialists, which tend to be left

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

They are not hate groups. Maybe look into them using sources that aren’t anti-BLM, or against Antifa.
The group you mentioned is a far right wing group with deep ties to the Republican party (even though it was started by Democrats, it has now migrated to the Republicans. As the parties have switched Liberal/Conservative positions, the 3K’s have remained Conservative).
Also, there are neo-nzis running for office under the GOP, and they are winning primaries (meaing they are beating non-nzis who are also Republican). Sure, there are those in the GOP that have spoken out against these (and other) groups, but many of the votes for Republican officials come from members of these groups.
Also, don’t forget that Steve Bannon was Trump’s White House Chief Strategist.

so when a group marches down the road yelling “Pigs in a Blanket, Fry em like bacon” that isn’t spreading hate?
and the group mentioned has since been renounced. congrats.

btw nzis are socialists, which tend to be left

Socialism isn’t inherently left or right, some of the most biggest socialist countries have also and still are the most oppressive.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

They are not hate groups. Maybe look into them using sources that aren’t anti-BLM, or against Antifa.
The group you mentioned is a far right wing group with deep ties to the Republican party (even though it was started by Democrats, it has now migrated to the Republicans. As the parties have switched Liberal/Conservative positions, the 3K’s have remained Conservative).
Also, there are neo-nzis running for office under the GOP, and they are winning primaries (meaing they are beating non-nzis who are also Republican). Sure, there are those in the GOP that have spoken out against these (and other) groups, but many of the votes for Republican officials come from members of these groups.
Also, don’t forget that Steve Bannon was Trump’s White House Chief Strategist.

so when a group marches down the road yelling “Pigs in a Blanket, Fry em like bacon” that isn’t spreading hate?
and the group mentioned has since been renounced. congrats.

btw nzis are socialists, which tend to be left

Socialism isn’t inherently left or right, some of the most biggest socialist countries have also and still are the most oppressive.

and yet in america which party is the one pushing socialism hardcore? since you know, were talking about america?