Insisting that you be given the option to collude with your friends and guild mates to punish (squelch) any other player at any time for every little slight you think you had to suffer, though, is another matter entirely. That IS a problem, IMO
You keep repeating this tired old meme as if it had any actual credibility.
It doesnt.
Are you not insisting that the right click report system be tied to an auto squelch?
Does the auto squelch give you the option to collude with your friends and guild mate to squelch any other player at any time for every little slight you think you had to suffer? Even if you never use that option, that option is still available to you.
If you insist that the right click report be tied to an auto squelch, you are therefore insisting that you be given the option to collude with your friends and guild mates to punish (squelch) any other player at any time for every little slight you think you had to suffer.
Are you not insisting that the right click report system be tied to an auto squelch?
it already is.
Does the auto squelch give you the option to collude with your friends and guild mate to squelch any other player at any time for every little slight you think you had to suffer? Even if you never use that option, that option is still available to you.
If they are breaking the rules, anyone who reports them is doing what is necessary. The ones who report wont be the ones censured.
No one is âcolludingâ anywhere.
any other player at any time for every little slight you think you had to suffer.
OddâŚI dont ever remember saying that. Ever.
Heâs already cited that story where he went out of his way to report some nobodies for gambling. Itâs not plausible that everyone else in the chat who were as well astute and studied about various rules and ToS as Aehl here. Therefore it wouldnât surprise me if he had an active hand in brigading those people, if the story is to be believed at all.
Youâve already established with him earlier that he doesnât have a problem using such measures to reign in enough control over others who get him butt blasted for one reason or another. He just wonât openly come out and say it, but continues to skate the line.
Are you insisting that right click report system continue to be tied to an auto squelch?
That does not even begin to answer the question I asked.
Iâll ask again:
Does the auto squelch give you the option to collude with your friends and guild mate to squelch any other player at any time for every little slight you think you had to suffer? Even if you never use that option, that option is still available to you.
Iâll also ask you again:
If you see Johnny advertising that in game gambling, do you collude with your friends and guild mates to submit enough reports to squelch Johnny?
I know that which is why I fully expect him to dodge those questions or ignore them entirely.
Heâs already cited that story where he went out of his way to report some nobodies for gambling
I have already posted proof that you arent allowed to advertise. So thats a valid report.
Therefore it wouldnât surprise me if he had an active hand in brigading those people, if the story is to be believed at all.
Nope.
But I have a question for you.
Lets say Blizzard does it your way. No squelch.
At say I dont know, 5pm your time on a Friday, you get Mr Potty MouthâŚyou report him but as theres no squelch , and a GM wont see the report for at least 12 hours and you ONLY want a GM to intervene and noone elseâŚare you okay with that?
He or she will be free to say whatever they like as long as they like for 12 hours.
No squelch.
No action until a GM steps in.
Are you comfortable with that? I can think of a great many that wont be.
If you see Johnny advertising that in game gambling, do you collude with your friends and guild mates to submit enough reports to squelch Johnny?
I wont have to.
Others will already have done so. We dont have a problem with shutting people like that up. No one likes a scammer.
Absolutely. Iâm far more okay with an offender continuing to dig their own hole deeper as their permitted time allows before theyâre dealt with from the established authority (Blizzard).
Combine that with zero possibility that the system is abused by brigading (in a game world / Classic / Vanilla) where social interaction is everything and there is very little single player mode / lobby up where being squelched doesnât make a damn bit of difference in most avenues of the game (Retail).
The community largely policed itself. Less savory people still got reported, but the community had other ways of dealing with them that were just as bad, if not worse. Being ostracized to the point where getting a group to do anything is not possible. Your inexperience to the game before 2010 kinda shows that youâre ill equipped to really discuss this topic, when it relates to not just this system at hand but how the game functioned as a whole, prior to largely a cross server, anon single player lobby âmmoâ.
Absolutely. Iâm far more okay with an offender continuing to dig their own hole deeper as their permitted time allows before theyâre dealt with from the established authority.
I VERY much doubt Blizzard will agree with you. Matter of fact, youâve just given a classic example as to why the current system needs to stay as is.
And probably will.
âValid reportsâ do not necessarily mean the system is not being abused. Examples of how players can abuse the system even if they carefully choose to use âvalidâ reasons for those reports.
Let ask a few questions for clarification.
Letâs say it is you that reports Mr. Potty Mouth.
Are you the only one reporting him? If you are, then he would not be squelched even if the report system was still tied to an auto squelch.
Are there enough reports to reach that target report number and trigger the auto squelch and flag for manual review to determine if there was an actual violation and if it is determined that there was a violation, apply the appropriate punishment? If there are, then even without that auto squelch, the account would still be flagged for manual review to determine if there was an actual violation and if it is determined that there was a violation, apply the appropriate punishment.
You say that a GM will not see the report for at least 12 hours without the squelch. Is that the time it would take for a GM to review those reports if the account was squelched?
If that is what you are saying, then the player you squelched will be squelched for 12 hours, even if Blizzard determines upon review that they didnât break any rules and overturns the squelch.
Are you comfortable with that? I can think of a great many that wont be.
That may very well be.
How would you even know whether Johnny was squelched?
After all, once you submit your report, you will be temporarily ignoring Johnny and you will no longer see his advertisements even if he is not squelched.
How would you even know whether Johnny was squelched?
I know because one of his guildies whined to me about what happened.![:rofl:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rofl.png?v=6" ":rofl:")
Iâm not so sure. Blizzard knows their current game isnât community driven. It hasnât been since 2008. Speaking about this specific, itâs why auto squelch trigger is set so laughably low.
Again, your 100% complete inexperience of the game and itâs sociological aspects prior to 2010 really reveal that youâre out of your depth on this topic, aside from wanting to continue to have a tool to bludgeon others who slighted you in some way. Who knows, maybe not even in relation to a single word they wrote into chat.
You cut out this part:
Several Days of what? To be suspended? Thatâs what I expect 
Aehl was talking and responding to my Quote, not you.
When you say âSquelchâ does that include the âIgnoreâ? Iâm only opting for no X Amount of Reports causes an automatic Silence. IDC about the âIgnoreâ that comes with it. That said, no, I do not mind that it takes 12 hours. Which is why I keep saying youâre only invested in the punishment, rather than the crime itself.
You want immediate action instead of patiently waiting for the karma. You want it NOW, and THAT is whatâs problematic and pressuring and not good for business. It just pushes people away. Which is why theyâll toss you instead of those of us that are not quick on the Report button. Weâre not pressuring the Customers, you are.
From a business standpoint, I would toss you out and keep those that arenât pressuring my environment. I think itâs wonderful that you want everybody held to the same standard. I do, too, but we sometimes have to learn to let things go, and IK it sounds bad. But there are certain points in the policy that are held at different standards than others. Certain ones take priority over the other:
This is MY hierarchy (others may have their own priorities/hierachies)
Call to Violence > Harassment > Cheating > Spam > Language
Iâm not interested in spamming the company over Language Reports. Call to Violence is my absolute highest priority and will IMMEDIATELY report, no matter what. I think most people, I would hope, agree to Report these, above all else. I donât see Language as a threat that needs immediate reported action compared to the other violations. And pressuring the playerbase is not healthy.
Iâm not saying people shouldnât be held accountable, but thatâs not up to you, is all Iâm saying. Thatâs up to the company.
First, I will say that you should absolutely report Mr. Potty Mouth if you feel he is breaking the rules.
Having said that, once you report him how does it affect YOU if he is not squelched?
If Mr. Potty Mouth wants to continue to dig his hole deeper before Blizzard reviews the reports and provide plenty of reason for a stronger punishment, how does it affect YOU?
After all, once you submit your report, you will be temporarily ignoring Mr. Potty Mouth and will not have to see him digging that hole deeper.
Everyone else who feels negatively impacted by Mr. Potty Mouth has the same option to report,do they not?
Will Mr. Potty Mouthâs continued flagrant disregard for the rules and those additional reports not be weighed into the equation when determining punishment, likely leading to a much stronger punishment? Is that ultimately not a good thing for the game?
First, I was asking about future reports, not past reports.
If you report Johnny for advertising gambling tomorrow, how would you even know if he gets squelched since you will no longer see his advertisements once you report him?
As for past reports, what about the players you reported that did not have âguildies that whined to you about what happenedâ?
I figured that, but I want to try to be clear that I speak only for myself.
You want immediate action instead of patiently waiting for the karma. You want it NOW, and THAT is whatâs problematic and pressuring and not good for business
Want to know whats worse for business?
Bad publicity.
I donât want to turn this into a Political discussion. Iâll just say Wendyâs and maybe Ihop (or should I say Ihob?). That, and I never believe public opinion, anyway 
EDIT: It coincides with why I have a disdain for Blacklists, as well. I like to see things for myself and not blindly accept peopleâs words.