False reporting and automated ban

[Åpocalypse-illidan (Åpocalypse)]

@anon44207803

I dont have an issue with the system as it stands.

Then actually answer these questions with STRAIGHT answers instead of constant deflections:

1. You find no issue with innocent players being punished by other players with automated squelch, who’s cases are then GM reviewed and cleared of all wrongdoing?

2. You find no issue with the potential for players abusing the system, whether they do it in good faith or not?

3. Why exactly are you opposed to the proposed compromise of the player driven squelch being removed, but GM penalties doubled?

4. Why are YOU, a player who started in 2010, remotely qualified to give or even have an opinion about the interactions of player driven squelch system and it’s implications in a vanilla closed realm environment? It’s literally an environment you don’t know and have never seen function in game.

@Åpocalypse-illidan

Now let’s look at a vanilla example… A friend of mine, and a server legend on Stonemaul in vanilla, who ended up passing IRL in Cata: The Shadowpriest Booms.

Booms’s method of making himself (in)famous in vanilla was by becoming the Pirate king of Menethil. He was a Horde Shadowpriest in one of the most accomplished guilds, spent most of his free time sitting on the menethil boat, next to his secondary account’s alliance character named Boomsbot.

Boomsbot’s job was simple… Everyone who wanted to take the boat, had to pay his alliance character a toll, or walk the plank (he spoke in pirate speak the entire time)… He was successful enough at this, for it to allegedly become his primary form of in game gold farming. If you didn’t pay, you got MCd off the boat into fatigue waters until you did. He was ruthless at this…

and he was a LEGEND on the server because of it… He had friends in numerous top horde guilds who would come join in on the fun/get his back if alliance tried to group to take him down, but for the most part he simply became a fixture of every day life for the Alliance there…

I want to be very clear about this… Booms did nothing wrong, and was never once banned for these actions, in fact, Booms was CELEBRATED by both the Stonemaul community in general, and even by Blizzard itself, when he was immortalized as an NPC after his IRL death. https://www.wowhead.com/npc=68985/booms

Now put this same exact situation in the modern right click report/squelch system… Every person Boomsbot talked to probably right clicks his name and reports… It doesn’t matter one damn bit that this is a player that Blizzard themselves celebrate in memorial in game… He’s getting squelched.

He’s now being punished for doing nothing wrong with constant squelches. Moreover, to your assertion that the people reporting him would get banned for causing an inappropriate squelch… ask yourself if they really would? Most of the people reporting him might have even thought that they where doing the right thing in reporting his behavior. Are they punished for trying to use the system honestly? Now what if some people just see him there and spam report him because they don’t like him… How can you possibly differentiate between the reports made in good faith and the reports made in bad faith. Just how much GM time are you now requiring for each and every report to determine intent?

The only response to this that your side has yet to come up with is “squelch him until GMs get so tired of squelching him that they make him immune to reports”…

How is that a valid solution? Does your side of the argument really believe the problem will be fixed if you give griefers blanket squelch/GM review immunity??? Because I can already tell you how that’s going to work out. Moreover, what of the people who report him… HOW do you filter reports made in good faith, vs those made in bad faith to issue punishments for those “abusing the system”??

The vanilla, and authentic answer to the booms problem was basically “report it to a GM” and the GM will tell you that “there’s a PvP solution to the problem” (so go pound sand)…

Punishing that player in any fashion with automated squelch systems is entirely not in line with Blizzard’s policy or in any way authentic to Vanilla wow.