Faction Toxicity - Flip Flopped

Can anyone explain why in 2019 Classic, Horde was the toxic faction, whereas in 2023 Classic era Alliance has become the toxic faction? What changed?

It’s a mixed batch. I would suggest playing on realms whose culture encourages good eggs over the bad.

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Define a toxic faction?

Toxic faction: Extreme racism/sexism/homophobia. Cruelty towards one another. Stalking and harassing other players. Griefing. Stealing gathering nodes from faction-members. ‘Every man for himself’ mentality.

Not toxic faction: Friendliness towards other players. Treating others with respect. Courtesy and etiquette when it comes to gathering professions. Helping others and lending a hand, proactively.

Either change faction or change realm

Do you have a recommendation for a good realm? I thought they were all connected now.

Twitch Streamers.

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Do the streamers play alliance? That could explain it.

I am going back to Horde.

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alot of them do, Look at Asmon, Bahjeera, Index, Snackybox, ect ect.

Don’t get me wrong horde has streamers of their own but most streamers are Alliance, the big ones anyways, and there are allways simp armies who -have- to be with their streamer 24/7

As for realms, If you’re looking for Hardcore go to Bloodsail Buccanners,

non Hardcore,

PvP - Go whitemane
PvE- Go Mankrik

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Horde on ERA are the only side that has a toxic team of WB griefers.

This snippet from a Blue names the realms in each cluster

There are 5 clusters in the North America region and also one OCE cluster [Arugal/Felstriker/Yojamba] :
PvP West (Anathema/Whitemane/etc)
PvE East (Ashkandi/Mankrik/etc)
PvE West (Atiesh/Old Blanchy/etc)
PvP East 1 (Benediction/Incendius/etc)
PvP East 2 (Earthfury/Skeram/etc)

The PvP West and PvE East Clusters receive free transfers and are thus the largest in the region. I play on the smaller PvP East 1 realm as Horde on Incendius.

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Thank you.

Makes sense about the twitch streamers. I dont watch twitch so i didnt know that. I also just assumed those streamers were playing Retail, not Era…

This is incorrect. North America has multiple clusters that each have their own realm culture/Auction Houses. The only time the clusters interact with one another is for instanced PvP/Battlegrounds.

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Thanks for explaining that.

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You don’t want to go Bloodsail then. Alliance side chat is vile with the streamer cult.

I think my experimentation with alliance has come to an end lol. I usually play horde but tried alliance this time… big, big mistake.

Looks like Gnome is back on the menu, boys.

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Nothing has changed, both sides have toxic players.

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This is both sides all the time, even since 2019.

Both sides have bad people. It was never one or the other. If you think it’s one or the other then you’ve only ever played one faction at a time.

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Thats a real shame. I dont remember it being this bad back in 2019, or back during OG Vanilla back in the day… but maybe ive just been living under a rock.