If you honestly believe that Horde players care then I don’t know what to tell you
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Yes and it promotes cultural apathy in the bg’s, which often contributes to the overall problem even more.
I think at this point they need to force same faction bg’s all together outside AV.
Its not ideal but it will lessen the impact and promote a better play experience for alliance.
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I’m fine with giving alliance incentives . More emotes to rp with, more mailboxes to dance on. More trees to frolic through. All fine with me.
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Free transfers to Alliance and paying alliance players gold per match is about the only way turn this around.
With a large enough gold payment per match, it would be appealing to horde players that don’t want to farm or constantly respec. They could just PvP and earn enough to support themselves.
You would also get a lot of alliance players queuing up that otherwise wouldn’t.
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Rolled alliance once I found out the que times were so long, now I’m stuck with a 66 I don’t want to play anymore and feel robbed spending the time on it. I’ll def use a boost if I end up going horde. Me and a buddy were leveling up alliance together for 2’s with part of the trade off being the que times… damn did we get duped. Didn’t see this one coming.
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I play on Thunderfury, 52% Alli and 48% Horde. I know some servers are Horde heavy but some are Alliance heavy as well and if you are using data from a population site some of those servers are dead with less than 100 unique players. I saw one server had 11 alliance and 92 Horde, on that server everyone loses, I would imagine those tiny servers are a bigger problem than any faction imbalances on larger servers, at least you have a population to imbalance.
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It’s nice to see someone post an accurate thread on the problems as this has nothing to do with Que times for Alliance. The economy was pretty bad on my PvP server and this isn’t going to get better. So I choose to unsub and call it for my TBC experience. Blizz just messed up every step of the way from a short Prepatch to rushed launch. I just don’t think they will address any of the problems in a meaningful way. I wish you guys luck.
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As a horde player myself, this is a good post. It’s not healthy for the game for servers to devolve into 80-20 or 95-5 populations, which is exactly what’s happening in many pvp servers.
I think the ideal solution really is a combination of:
- Free faction transfers from the majority -> minority faction, in each server
- Faction-queues for login. The dominant faction player can’t log on until the number of currently logged-in players is at least 48-52
#2 is going to suck massively for the first week. Which is exactly what needs to happen for them to decide to do the faction-transfer.
Knowing Blizzard, they are certainly not going to implement #2 because of the potential for unsubs. Given this, giving the minority faction better incentives, like significantly boosted xp/rep/honor gains, is the next best option. This will only work if there’s a faction transfer option though. Otherwise, no one will want to give up their existing characters and start over.
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The damage is done already, horde know they can just play a game of chicken with their subscription to get their way at the moment.
Let’s all just be horde and get it over with.
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The problem is worse than what you describe.
It’s not simply that the “solution” only treats symptoms on one side. Far worse is the fact that the solution actively increases the amount of gravity pulling Alliance players to the Horde side.
It masks one single symptom while actively making the root cause problem worse.
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Unless said faction xfers are free, you’re telling Blizzard to essentially hold peoples accounts hostage because, in most cases, the other faction mass xferred off.
So outside of pvp server balancing for factions what is the actual issue of their change? If alliance reroll to horde via this gravity thing you describe, what is wrong with that? Right now the only real merit of complaints is for those on pvp servers, but as others have pointed out, that cannot be fixed.
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To be honest it’s probably the only reason this change happened.
The same faction battlegrounds you don’t even need an opposite faction more reason to implement faction changes now which is exactly what alliance players are asking for.
So blizzard can just be like see we listen we’re going to give you guys faction changes what you’re asking for…
I’m on to them
What an EXCELLENT post my dude. Really wish posts like this could be bumped to the top.
Since the announcement of same faction BG queues I’ve been thinking about writing up a post like this. But decided against it because it will just get drowned out by a sea of stupidity. Thanks again, King.
if reroll alliance its the only anwser that you guys have… no
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you, along with every other doomsayer in these forums crying about the sky’s falling, are somehow forgetting the main reason there’s an imbalance in the first place- the majority of wow players don’t give a damn about “racials” and just rather play a horde class over an alliance.
reason #2- alliance can blame no but their own base about their pvp disparities. it’s been proven for over 16yrs that a majority of alliance just don’t like to pvp. AoO couldn’t even bribe players to go horde on retail.
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You’ve just described a PvP server that’s had a couple years to age.
Not reroll. H->A xfer.
Come on you can play something besides a Crack addict elf
yeah my orc hunter my main orc shaman my undead warlock and my undead mage
Because people migrated to your faction. It’s not that your faction is inherently better and ours is inherently worse. That’s proven by what became of pvp during WoD and the ocean filling amount of tears Horde had back then. People go to where they have an advantage, therefore people bandwagon Horde