Tanks like to learn instances before just going in. There is a lack of people wanting to do any instance less than an 8 because delves are better. Either be a tank or start bringing them up.
You should ā¦ like tanking thingsā¦
Tank isnāt synonymous with dps that stands in fire.
To be clear, I do not tank. Any longer. The whole thread is about the shortage. Itās just an odd notion in order to make healing fun they adjusted a whole other role. Especially one that was already on the lower end of being played.
And for the record, I have never been critical (openly or to anyone) about a tank or healer in game. Waiting to play something is just the worst wait there is. I donāt know what kind of people would not be happy to just be doing something. It might be a waste of time, but I was already wasting that.
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Well said Stizzle. Tanking has become the easiest role in modern WoW (M+) thanks to the lack of affixes like Necrotic, Bolstering (The MOTHERLODE!! anyone?) Sanguine (Tol Dagor, Waycrest Manor) Explosives (Temple of Seth, Shrine of the Storm etc).
I feel for the healers tbh. Iāve seen DPS that require more healing than they can do in dps lmao. Usually one per pug.
You can only tell people dont stand in bad so many times. If they wont listen, then you have to resort to other ways to get the point home. DPS standing in bad is wasting the healers time, those are globals that could be used to contribute to dmg, now being wasted on healing avoidable dmg.
I cant even tell you the number of DPS I see die with lock rocks/HP potions/defensives available.
So why can DPS waste my time, but i cant waste their time, that seemsā¦ rather biased and reeks of ārules for thee, not for meā
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Well, in S1 of DF a group managed to time a +27 key running 4 dps and a prot pally. If any role is in danger of being removed, it was the healers, and largely due to tanks being able to solo heal while tanking.
My healers have never been able to tank while healing, why should tanks fill 2 roles?
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In short, they were having fun. And Karens just canāt stand the thought of people having fun without them. So enough Karens protested loudly enough so that fun has been significantly nerfed for everyone. Keys right now are brutal and tanking, at least on a pally, isnāt that fun atm. Good job. The game should be fun, not a purposeful sweatfest. I donāt give a ratās petuty if last expacās tanks were OP based on your preconceived notion of their place in the trinity. It made a role that has been increasingly less played more fun. That was good for everyone, including healers because it took some of the stress off of the normal ones, and encouraged more tanks to queue up.
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Nah, you exile tanks for not being the right class at some point.
Then even tanks want balance lol.
Healing is not fun. Heart attacks are not fun.
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Healing is fun for people who like to heal.
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Speaking as a tankā¦ I mean, yeah, thatās true. But these arenāt mutually exclusive.
Tanking is harder, people treat tanks like doody, and often have mutually exclusive demands of tanks. Itās āPULL FASTER!ā sometimes, or āWHAT ARE YOU DOING ARE YOU ON CRACK WITH THAT PULL?!ā others. And often it can be the same pull eliciting both responses.
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Idk I saw a lot of people in this very forum being extremely happy when they nerfed tank defensives during beta. A bunch of us said that this was going to increase tank shortage even more, and were told āNope, now you tanks need to learn to be team players, and just accept your role and tank mobs for us!ā
The nerf to tank defensives didnāt matter much for the actual content, but did anyone really think itād bring MORE people to the role? They gutted dps trinkets for tanks, made us do much less damage (agro is still an issue against some classes, ie: ret/warriors). So much fun.
During beta I mentioned often that after 3-4 weeks into TWW Season1 itād become a real issue, and that I would take advantage of it by applying to lower keys ā300k and Iāll tank your keyā. Weāre approaching this time frame, and I will 100% do it.
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Might as well just pay for a carry then and afk at the entrance.
You donāt have to spout toxicity to be toxic, People can be toxic in a lot of ways. Iāve had DPS āgive upā because of a few wipes and on the pull we could beat the timer, they die to easy mechanics just so they donāt have to play anymore, people have the mentality that if you die and wipe more than once it means they Key is bricked. (In a lot of instances that can be true since Challengers Peril is such an butthole affix)
You have people not interupting and just using tunnel vision, making the tank work harder because āItās so EASY.ā Itās why I solely tank with people I know and MAYBE pug one person, I can count on the group of people I know to treat each key like itās a high key, I would be more than happy to try out pug groups and Iām not easily offended but why bother when I can just run with people who donāt have the potential to be buttholes for no other reason than their little egoās.
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Listen. Just Ice Lance and Blink. Itās cool. Even if you donāt have Winters Chill just keep blasting that keybind. Popeye aināt got sheeet on my right forearm atm.
Seriously. ICE LANCE
Interrupting is a meleeās job. Lazy mofos.
100% for sure
I got 9 level 80 tanks. I donāt Tank pugs
There are five people in the group. That leaves three others for the healer to be concerned about besides the tank. Iām sure for the vast number of groups there was no healer needed and weāre only talking about a teeny tiny number that actually include healers. But maybe they could look to the dps to alleviate their boredom?
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Trying to learn a dungeon on a 10 makes me not even log in anymoreā¦
Buffing tank mobility? LMFAO! What Iām seeing in instances is the tank just running way ahead of the rest of the group and chain pulling like they are in Mythic-plus-plus content and outrunning their mobility challenged Priest or other healer. But Blizz has buffed tanks to the extent they can survive the alpha strike and donāt seem to even need a healer half the time. A dps off-healing often can do the trick. Canāt really stand the way many tanks just zerg the content. Tanks need to be more dependent on the group.