I never understood why people always cry about raid logging as if it’s some massive negative against the game.
Classic is not retail, it’s not designed to coerce you to log in every single day and do your chores. I enjoy Classic BECAUSE it’s a game that I can just play a few hours per week and not “fall behind” the rest of the server. I can simply log on for my weekly guild raids and that’s it. I’ve already completed all my other Classic goals, so there’s nothing else for me to do besides raid Naxx every week.
Classic is a game that has a defined “end”. You don’t have to keep playing for hours every single day like retail wants you to. I just never understood why this gets painted as a bad thing.
It’s only a bad thing for power hungry guild leaders/officers who view the people in their guilds as pawns for them to control. Because their sense of power and control is diminished when people are offline.
Not being able to play your main because you have WBs is bad. Not really having things to progress towards in your own time is also bad. In the case of retail, it doesn’t offer much meaningful progression on your own, and most systems designed with daily and weekly checklists in mind are a chore and not at all entertaining, so it’s a bad way to keep players online.
I’m not talking about world buffs, just raid logging in general. People seem to imply that if you’re not logging in every day to do something, the game is bad.
In general, it means there’s a lack of compelling content (to the individual) to do. It’s not necessarily bad, but it’s a sign of some stagnation in the current patch content - which is very much true in Classic. But WBs forcing raid logging is the epitome of bad.
It’s bad for the game because you’re more concerned about going to your raid buffed rather than playing the game between raids, making you play the game less.
Less people playing the game outside of raid = bad for the game.
You can’t possibly release enough content to keep players busy 24/7 these days, hence why everything in retail is artificially timegated. Raid logging doesn’t really show “stagnation” so much as it just shows that person completed everything available to them. Which is the case for me in Classic. I’ve already done everything, there’s nothing left for me to do. That’s not the game being bad, that’s just me finishing everything.
I just responded to it, keep your shorts on, no need to get snippy.
I never said world buffs don’t cause raid logging. I’m just talking about raid logging outside of that.
Because Vanilla wasn’t a game that you could only play for “a few hours a week” and not fall behind. The entire game is designed so that if you can only play for a “few hours a week” you have no chance of competing with people who invest more time assuming you follow ToS and are on a level playing field.
If you can only play “a few hours” a week and not fall behind you are almost certainly a huge gold buyer that’s buying everything off the AH at marked up prices, avoiding the necessary fact that raiding does take weekly preperation, and only contributing to the problem. That’s extremely true of Naxx raiding in particular.
I’ve never bought gold in any version of WoW. I’m a healer, my raid consume costs are minimal. I only need to farm like 1-2 hours per week to fund naxx consumes.
Correct, and that means the game is in a stagnated state. Hence why TBC is on the very near horizon.
Healer consumes are some of the most expensive, as you need mana pots and other similar consumables on top of all the other consumes you have to buy. Dark Runes alone can cost a huge amount.
Its not good or bad, though the game world that people will tell you is great and robust and worth exploring in the end is really just a Raid Simulator for many. Which is how they want to play.
Idk healer consumables seem pretty expensive too. Major Mana Potions are like 6+ g per on the AH rn, Dark Runes, Mageblood potions with overpriced Plaguebloom, you still need a decent amount of greater protection pots.
Unless you have insanely good RnG on Demonic Runes I don’t see how you’re getting enough of all required consumables for a full Naxx clear in 1-2 hours.
…no, TBC is on the horizon because Classic’s content cycle is over, not because it’s “stagnated”.
Healer consumes are some of the most expensive, as you need mana pots and other similar consumables on top of all the other consumes you have to buy. Dark Runes alone can cost a huge amount.
What “other consumables” ? Have you even played a healer in vanilla? Your consumables are just major mana pots + mana oils, both of which are super cheap. Unless you’re a Shaman, dark runes are almost never used. Mageblood potions are also almost never used.
And I mean an eternally P6 server isn’t going to last forever because people have done all of it already. That’s my entire point.
Flask, oils, mana potions, dark runes, etc are all huge costs and healers can often chug them. We specifically help our healers with their consumes because it’s so expensive.