I’m glad someone pointed this out. I’d also like to add that as someone who raids weekly, finding random people to fill at the end of a phase even for full heroic clears can be a nightmare. Like pulling first boss an hour and a half after start time bad. And we aren’t a sweat guild, we don’t participate in parsing culture. All we require is the generally agreed upon minimum ilvl for the content and that your gear is appropriately gemmed and enchanted. Not a big ask for Classic players, seeing as everyone is way better at the game this time around. If we’re having this much trouble filling a 25M heroic clear, I can’t imagine how bad the queue will be after people don’t need LFR tier and move on. And inevitably, people will be back on these forums blaming Blizzard for 2hr queues.
To be fair, the LFR pool of potential players would be much larger than those who are heroic ready. I have 15+ toons who could queue for LFR and only a couple heroic worthy.
Yeah, I know. That’s why I don’t want it in the game. It’s hard enough to fill those spots. LFR would just make it harder. Not to mention all the people that just wouldn’t participate in LFR because they didn’t want it in the game either and will just do Celestials instead. The only way LFR would’ve been successful is without an alternate way to get the gear, which is something the pro-LFR crew won’t admit. They keep saying we can have both, but they’re still in the bargaining stage of grief.
I’ve contributed punchlines to you because you’re a joke. I’ve had serious conversations with rational people who are capable of serious conversation. The only thing you’ve done is try to disrupt that serious conversation and you were put down for it. You keep on thinking your massively long rants are strokes of brilliance but most see you for the joke you are.
Fair enough, but how long is it going to last? And how upset are people going to be when that queue falls off? That’s all stuff Blizzard had to consider when they made this decision. And if you think people will be fine with long wait time to get into LFR, you must be missing all the complaints about BG queue times on these forums in every version of the game. Nobody with limited time to play is going to accept the queues when Tanks/Healers start raid logging.
You don’t want people to have what they want because it will make it harder to get what you want. You want to force people to play the way you play. That’s the same argument people made against rdf. They didn’t want us to get what we wanted because it would make it harder for them to find the pugs they wanted. It’s all selfish narcissism for you not what’s fun.
And that’s what people said when rdf was removed. When it was added most of them switched to a different alt rather than admit they were wrong. If lfr is added you’ll run away too.
So, normal human behavior. But in this particular scenario, it affects hundreds of guilds and thousands of players. So, not just me.
This is a disingenuous use of that term.
I never had a problem with RDF. But just like with what will happen with RF, the same people that vehemently wanted RDF were back here blaming Blizzard for all it’s shortcomings, i.e. vote kicking, deserter debuff, and gatekeeping. Which are all player created issues that Blizzard, and every other developer, has never been able to deal with effectively.
Edit: And queue times, can’t forgot about how impatient people can be.
I’m too busy with other things to watch much tv so I’ve never seen Succession or The Mandalorian. I’ve seen a couple of the early Star Wars films but I found them boring so I stopped watching. Not really much of a fan. I find books so much more interesting. If you ever learn to read I’d suggest The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson or Child of Fortune by Norman Spinrad. They’re much better than the crap you watch
Selfish human behavior. Most people have a more live and let live attitude, that’s much more normal.
With only 262 posts you might mistakenly have that opinion. But those of use here from the beginning know you’re wrong. The same people that argued for rdf are the ones defending it now when people attack it. Most likely the ones complaining about it now are alts of those fighting against it being added. Just like if lfr gets added, you’ll be back complaining about it on an alt.
The more things you do the more superficially you do them. And you are demonstrably a very superficial person. It’s clear your focus is the tv since that’s the first reference you go for in your comments.
I think it’s also the fault of design, if you want more solo players then you make the game more solo friendly and they’ve kept pushing that way. I’m not sure we are less social but we are social differently, we use discord more and other platforms which can fill the need to be social. And this is a part also that has affected classic as discords can be used to find groups and guilds much more easily than before.
Which is somewhat normal, people want the easy way out and being social can often bring more troubles. So if you can get to the same point without being social then a lot won’t do it. You can call it forced but for me this is a core design and it should definitely be designed for it as this is the strength of mmos to me. And this is one of the reason for me that LFR fails in its design same as the content itself being a much watered down version that makes some bosses unrecognizable.
While some people might want to do both this was mostly a thing in mop (outside of tmog) because it was heavily incentivized. Without heavy incentives LFR isn’t as big of an attraction when there is more options. And certainly this would have happened with H+ and with H+ you can much more easily join a normal or heroic group. And there are much more groups that you can fill for weekly with how people have been playing classic if you don’t want to play every week. Even in my guild not everyone has to show up every week.