Explain BFA and why you hate it

Before BfA was announced, I said, “I’m down for just about anything except the old warn out Horde v Alliance trope.”

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It took all the things I disliked about wow and amplified them. It is hard for me to point to anything beyond how bad warfront,expeditions,and the gcd changes are it is just in general I didn’t like the direction the game has been going in.

Its filled with salt

I am loving it :slight_smile:
*Inserts mcdonald end theme bling

is it worth my while?

It’s a gutted extension of Legion.

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not really just spend time on alts and play the game i want to and not rush content. I do not care about IL (unless content needs me to) So i only do LFR because I enjoy the fights and want mogs.

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I don’t hate it.
I don’t love it.

There isn’t enough meat on this bone to generate a meaningful opinion, beyond “well, that was a thing.” If I had to I could keep playing. If the servers crashed and wiped it all I wouldn’t shed a tear.

It’s just so very, very BLAND. It’s the gameplay equivalent of standing in line, except I’m not sure I’m in the right line anymore.

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It’s been decent. Some opinions that I have at the moment that I can think of:

  • Boring copy/paste from legion dumbed down is bad and I get easily bored of.
  • Rep was boringly painful to grind. I miss when they had a variety of way to get or little amount of fun quest to obtain with, looking at you MoP.
  • Island expeditions and warfronts could be more. It was and still is a disappointment that warfronts weren’t pvp, missed opportunity. Island expeditions could get more than just round up all the mobs and kill them for competition. I could see scenarios having a part in making them interesting.
  • Warmode’s fun when there’s alliance around to mess with, however I doubt the new pendulum swinging, bandage fixes towards alliance will truly fix it. PvP and PvE servers were fine.
  • Forced personal loot is a mistake for guild raiding.
  • “You need?!” x10 whispers getting spammed at the same time
  • PvP’s out of wack still with spells hitting 100k+ due to standing azerite gear even in bgs.
  • Classes feel weak and incomplete, really should go backwards before WoD when classes were fun and could stand their ground if played correctly. Not this extremely situational bs that they are now.
  • Spec fantasy was a mistake. Specs should return being an addition to a class.
  • Professions are meh, not motivated to finish leveling mine. Some legion professions were helpful, example food that healed fast out of combat, speed, first aid item that healed bleeds, etc. BfA offered barely any and removed first aid instead of making it fun or interesting.
  • Scaling was a mistake. It’s nice and all to have the freedom to level where you want, but when a player lower than 50 is out healing/damaging 120s in dungeons, there’s something wrong. Then there’s mobs that are out of wack.
  • I do like the story quests with Lillian Voss and seeing more of her character. She’s been a favorite of mine since I leveled my first character which was undead.
  • I miss the talent tree from my artifact weapon, heck I miss class talent trees from pre mop.
  • Pruning to this point was a mistake.

I’ll leave at these before I go from decent to lower. Anyway, I don’t hate the expac, just was disappointing and lacking with too many copy/paste safe content.

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Thank you I agree I want the old class design hoping later patch but its most likely next expac. If they do it.

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My disappointment is focused on class design for elemental and enhance shaman as well as shadow priests (or lack thereof). I was fine and hopeful leading up to 8.1, but the lack of rework they’ve posted thus far is quite frankly baffling and incredibly disappointing. They lost a lot of trust with me as a result.

Hate is too strong of a word though.

Okay

  • Relying on a boring gimmick

  • Didn’t learn anything new on my path to 120

  • Honor level feels longer to level up

  • PvP talents are still a thing

  • Less emphasis on class fantasy

  • Removal of tier bonuses

  • No reforging secondary stats

  • Titanforge

  • Too RNG

  • Failing to expand on artifact weapons which made specs unique

That was easy.

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Unfortunately I can see more pruning in the next expac unless there’s a major fix within the dev team. Let’s hope wow doesn’t turn into a mobile game by then.

yea. I think blizz needs to step up because the next Expac might be its last if it does as poorly as this.

Legion 2.0

  1. mission boards were setup to punish players for investing in them. unlike legion where they drove amazing numbers of logins and jacked the in-game economy, which is a lot more fun than the dreadful state the economy is in now

  2. currencies to target gear are so, so, so much better than RNG. RNG is soul-crushing

BfA is NOT legion 2.0, Legion was WAY better

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The number of highly articulate and reasonable topics here describing various issues with BfA is immense. I’m talking highly detailed, well-written posts that have bullet points and evidence and so on.

You just don’t want to read posts that disagree with your opinion. So DON’T.

Leveling up a character to 110 just so I can begin the month long rep grind requirement to unlock an allied race. Then after I finally have the allied race unlocked I have to then level that character to 120 before the game actually starts for me. BfA is retarded. Let it burn.

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DOn’t really hate it over all just somethings I don’t like.

AP grid to upgrade Azerite gear then having to upgrade to a higher level when I upgrade gear just get past the first trait .

Allied races grind (And yes I 've done some). We are being told we are grinding to get allies we’ve never had contact before and need to do so to win them to our side.

I don’t remember ever having to grind Draenei or Pandaren rep to play those and Why do we have to grind Dark Iron rep seeing how they have been part of the Alliance since Cata with Moira being part of the Council of 3 Hammers.

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I don’t hate it, but I’m having a hard time finding the long-term fun.

For my main, reps are done (and I got all those SWEET horses…), gear is in good shape for the things I like to do, I’ve explored everything, and I’ve done all of the questing except for that needlessly cryptic oddball on the eastern side of Stormsong who deserves whatever fate has befallen his family. I’ve unlocked every allied race so far.

My profession is hamstrung with RNG materials, so I could finish it if materials drop tomorrow, or I might not get what I need to finish it until 6 months from now. That kind of model doesn’t make me play more. It makes me check out of content.

My only real in-game goals are to get the two Arathi Basin mounts I don’t have yet and finishing up the warfront armor sets for transmog purposes, all of which is more random random-y-ness that might not happen for months.

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I view periods like this as “Wowcations”, which I should probably be taking anyway.

I remember them in Legion, even though I really liked Legion.

I remember a “Wowcation” just before Broken Shore content came out, then again just before Argus came out. In both cases, I’d kind of felt like I did what I could without new stuff.

I’m kind of in that place now, where I feel like stagnation sets in. I guess this is fine? Maybe it is their intention that they have “forced breaks”, in a way? It just seems kind of like a longer period, right now, until something good comes.