The game is not just the leveling part, FYI. But again, bye.
As a wise Highmountain Tauren said: “I won’t… be doing that.”
I’m saying that a boring process is still boring, even if it’s faster. Cutting the overall time doesn’t necessarily solve the problems people have with the moment to moment gameplay experience.
I have one of every class at 120. 2 warlocks and two priest as well for both factions. I am also at character cap so /shrug
But they didn’t. Leveling is staying as-is, and they’re breaking the solutions people find around the poor leveling experience. The issue here is that leveling is so droll and unrewarding, players would rather drop 6 and 7 figures in gold to avoid it. What are they doing to address WHY carries exist in the first place? Nothing.
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I am so happy for this, what about m+ runs? how do we fix this? Let’s get our community back. now everyone just buys runs.
Hi,
Rank 50 Neck level 110 twink here who is extremely active in the Alliance twink community.
Twink level boosting is 99% from 111 Demon Hunters farming Freehold Trash in a 2 person group.
Paid Island Expedition carries doesn’t really happen anymore to be honest.
No one really pays for dungeon carries either. I tried marketing this, but it fell flat.
In terms of random dungeons, 19 out of every 20 people I come across are happy to have a twink in their random dungeon. It doesn’t matter if we’re tanking it or dps’n it. People are astounded and grateful and want to run more with you. Occasionally there is that 1/20 person who doesn’t enjoy it. They usually just leave. Maybe 1/50 of the 1/20 crowd will complain about it verbally.
People genuinely seem to enjoy a quicker dungeon experience currently.
BFA limits each faction to 3 dungeons only in LFD pre-120, and not all dungeons are included. It’s 3 specifically for horde, and 3 specifically for alliance.
BFA has 3 major quest areas for each faction with only 3 exceedingly minor quest lines in the opposing faction island.
Legion had more dungeons available for players leveling 100-110.
Legion had 5 and then +2 more areas for 7 total to level/quest in.
The usage of BFA invasions to level up is insignificant. Both because the experience returns are less, and because the actual events spawn less often than Legion invasions. You can still take advantage of them by leveling multiple characters are the same time, but let’s be realistic here, most people aren’t doing that, and by most, I do mean like 95% of the player population. Even then, it is still overall a slower way.
So you got LESS CONTENT for the leveling experience. This is why the twink level boosting market has exploded. Period.
YOUR GAME IS BORING TO PEOPLE
The reason people are paying twinks IN GOLD that they BUY FROM WOW TOKENS FROM THE WOW GAME STORE, is because:
1) It costs less than a level boost
2) They still want to play and find a way to enjoy it, and they are doing so by circumventing the most mindnumbingly boring and pigeon holed aspect of your current expansion, and YOU’RE PUNISHING THEM FOR WANTING TO STILL ENJOY THE GAME.
That’s the truth and the bottom line is…
$40
That’s the real reason this change is being pushed. A microtransaction that isn’t being utilized and Activision-Blizzard’s loss of $40 per transaction.
You can make up and throw out there all that other load of BS on why this is being done, despite these all being part of the game since Classic (lvl 19 pvp twinking was a big thing back then), but the truth is the beancounters are upset about the loss of 40 bucks once 9.2 is released and they up the boost level from 110 to 120 LIKE THEY DO EVERY EXPANSION SINCE THAT JUNK WAS PUT INTO THE STORE.
It’s a scam. This whole stealth nerf they are trying to sneak in at the last moment. Raise hell community. They’ve done this before and the only thing that reversed it was similar responses from the player base.
PS> Maxing your neck is WORTHLESS! Unlike in Legion you don’t get AP tokens instead that you can sell for gold. Your azerite goes NO WHERE.
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But if they make you jump through hoops to get flying that means the game has content… buying flying like we did for years I guess we did realize what joy we were missing out on buy doing all these other find the cheese in the maze activities, had we only known what we were missing out on while leveling in icecrown we could have been grinding out rep doing world quest instead.
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So if you don’t like questing, group content, or PVP, what exactly do you intend to do at max level anyway?
I’ll do current content on my main. What are you even trying to imply?
I would agree with this. The solution is to fix the scaling problems so that 110s aren’t stronger than a mid lvl or max 120. This is a band aid fix, and, unfortunately, opens up other cans of worms. One of them is the potential for griefing. For example, lets say your leveling in the barrens. Someone whispers you saying they are doing dungeons, like wailing caverns and the like, and your like ok and you join. However, once you join the dungeon, you discover his experience is turned off, and you didn’t know it. I feel like it would pretty rare, but im sure something like that will happen to people. Ill almost be checking any rando i happen to invite, because if you aren’t paying attention, happens from time to time, you could indirectly lose out on experience due to someone trying to troll you. They just seem like some peeps who want to do some dungeons together, with the goal to ultimately cause others to lose time with the 30 min deserter debuff and exp. Idk, im not always checking what debuffs i have and don’t have when i join a group, so its not something i actively look for.
This is just one of the things i can see being bad with this system. I feel another thing to bring up is the stance that blizzard has on this. Most of the players performing this are lvl 110 twinks, who not only farm and powerlvl others, but also pvp and dungeon and do a slew of other things. As a player who twinks myself, i usually had a lvl 19 hunter, I can say its mainly aimed at that, as well as powerlvling abuse. Its just a band aid fix so that no one twinks, and no one powerlvls others unintentionally, while avoiding the issues that caused them to exist in the first place.
Doesnt mean you have the right to screw over other players
unholy necro batman!
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Let people stop xp at 60-69
This thread should be locked. It is entirely irrelevant and based on a misunderstanding of upcoming changes (at that point).
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4 years later - maybe look at the date if you are going to switch characters.
Nvm you actually searched for twink threads …
All threads should auto-lock after X period of time and/or X period of time without a post in them.
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Agreed. Its fine to keep them visible so people can read them, but they should be locked as occurs on other forums. These dead fish necros are annoying, and usually smelly.
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In this case, this thread will probably either confuse readers or rile them up because they think the original posters were fighting about a real issue, but they weren’t.
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