Examples of Layering exploits and problems

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This makes a serious case for opening with more servers and then merge them over time in the traditional model.

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Maybe is all part of an elaborate plan to get us to want sharding…

Blizz: “Here’s sharding to help with the initial rush”
Community: “No! It’s game breaking!”

Blizz: “Ok then, here’s ‘layering’. (Hehe, we just sharded the entire continent and gave it a different name)
Community: “Oh crap! Give us sharding back, we’ll take it.”

Blizz: “See! You think you don’t, but you do’”

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… i can’t unsee that which i’ve just seen. :scream:

Okey maaaybe that’s too much chess from Blizzard though :smile: Altho it would be very funny if things ended up like that!

This must’ve cost quite a bit to develop, and i think, giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt, that they did try to tailor things more to classic with layering.
But…as it goes, even if well intentioned, it unfortunately makes the game even more different and not in a good way.

Any solution that deviates from the original games foundations is simply too much.
They’d have to operate within the guidelines of what they have available in terms of organizational tools (that do their job outside of the game) if they want Classic to be truly authentic and minimze all modern impact as much as actually possible.
It’s not an easy, cheap, or simple task - but they can do it, and the core audience will definitely appreciate it a lot if they put in the extra mile to get this 1 special chance right.
Right now the message i get is “You think you want authenticity - but you don’t”.

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Yeah, it would really help if Blizzard would clear things up about their approach soon. Who knows what they’re currently doing and discussing, maybe they haven’t figured it out themselves yet on what to do, and/or how to do things. It’s a sticky situation they are in, so i don’t blame them at all.

I hope though that they’ll manage to find the right way to go for them and for their playerbase, and tell us about it in an amount of time that is not too close to the release date, which is not that far off anymore at this point. :+1:

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Make it 5 minutes and you can only swap layers every 15 minutes IF AND ONLY IF you are in an inn. If you want to be on the same layer as a friend, join a group and head to an inn (both of you), then both log out for 5 minutes, then log back in and you are both in the same layer.

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the asmongold/player grouping on same server and losing the rare spawn is because when they grouped up it switched them in a layer after the group.

I hate layering but I will take it for phase 1 so long as they keep to their “well, we dont see us needing layering after phase 1” BS

Its just… annoying… more than anything game breaking. Randomly switching layers while inside a mine/in combat is kinda ridiculous imho

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Bump, fix the exploits caused with layering if you are going to force this on us Blizzard.

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How would warlock summons work if there was a timer and/or inn requirement? Could a warlock summon people from other layers, but not see them afterwards? I think a timer could solve a lot of the exploits, but it could also be a pain on raid night (depending on how it is implemented).

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So you want every single server to crash and be unplayable for days. With 8 hr queues.

I see. That’s a good idea.

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There are no “servers” any more. wow is in the cloud.

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Want? Nah.

I’d just rather have long queues and overpopulated zones than sharding, is all.

It’s an MMO. Large crowds during launch should be expected, and are part of the appeal, not something to be “fixed.”

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the downside still don’t even come remotely close to outweighting the benefits.

moving on.

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i dont believe blizzard will remove layering and have some serious doubt this will be fix in the next 2 month + all other bug (because the size of the team working on classic ) , i just hope the release date will be push , but not sure activision will like this

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Anyone try using sense?

Like I sense they won’t be that big of an issue come launch when you take the hundreds being shardes to test the tech vs the hundreds of thousands of players that will be in at launch.

Your second node,chest, AGM trinket will be there on Beta qhen they are layering 30 people but most likely wont be on launch when you shard hop onto an equally full shard

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You know what I just realized too, if the Arena chest is in on day 1 that means the chest will spawn as soon as the servers go live at 3pm PDT

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funny the guy saying (Anyone try using sense?) can not say everything he have to say in 1 post :slight_smile: but have to double post Oo

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Queues in vanilla were over 5hrs. With less than a 6th of the population blizzard is expected and a 10th of the servers.

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The general statement still remains. They might not be physically there but you can treat then the same way. In a general sense.

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Cool. I’d rather have that than sharding.

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That was every server. Every day. For the first 3 months.

Good luck with that. That one narrow minded thought will destroy classic.