Evoker's Range

Yeah Fauxstrasza keeps trying to equate the lack of 10-15 yards on Evoker compared to other classes having the standard 40 as the same as giving Warriors 40 yards on their abilities. Essentially turning them into a ranged class lol. I know, it’s asinine and hard to understand the mental gymnastics he’s going through there. I think he needs help irl.

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Oh, don’t mind them. Their glorious contribution to my thread boiled down to “Why not just give all melee a 40 yard range then?” which caused my brain, and everyone else’s brain who witnessed it to start melting down, as if it was some kind of eldritch elder god.

So I blocked them, and I’m sure their ego isn’t handling it well. :rofl:

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Nope I hate it I always think I can get away with something after playing any other ranger and then can’t … lol

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This is so incorrect lol. You should probably think before you type and have actual experience on the topic at hand before commenting about it.

NONE OF OUR CHANNELED SPELLS ARE INSTANT you buffoon.

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What you call “blocking anyone with a counter argument” we call successfully rebutting utter nonsense with facts and logic.

What you’re going through is denial after people smarter than you have beat you to a pulp with their intelligent rebuttals and you refuse to see the logic/reality before you.

You seriously need help.

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insulting anyone that doesn’t agree with you is a great way to argue or convey your point.

I only insult people who repeatedly ignore reality and just can’t seem to get it through their thick skulls. The internet has unfortunately given a voice to every single person out there, giving the illusion that every opinion is valid. It’s not I’m afraid. If you say 2+2 = 22, then no matter how much of an “opinion” it is, it still isn’t fact.

Opinions aren’t meant to be nurtured or coddled. They’re meant to be beat into submission by facts.

You’re wrong, your ideas are wrong and your opinions are god awful. Everyone who reads your posts are dumber for having done so. You are a living mental health crisis not only to yourself, but those around you.

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The problem is probably those pesky ranged players that think standing 39.5 yards away from the fight, each at the furthest possible point from each other is a good idea :smile:

In groups, I call it “The Ranged Triumvirate of Battle Awareness”

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Lmao, you are unable to comprehend that Blizzard can tune numbers so that the specs work while being mid-ranged, just like how warriors are melee, and not at 40 yards chucking axes.

We have ranged specs in the game, so to what benefit is there to being melee? None, I guess.

We have a mid-range spec class as for what benefits, well, enough, more so than hunter (the entire class) for the first two tiers of Dragonflight.

As for range being all important, go play an afflic warlock.

Is your argument that Blizzard cannot design a mid-range spec that works?

I lost brain cells reading that. You type/speak like a “stream of consciousness”. Honestly, I’m more fascinated than anything else at this point. Below I want you and others to read this specific post as a safari guide/narrator would, observing animals out in the wild Serengeti.

Your thoughts went in this order and I’m truly stupefied at it:

  • Blizzard tuning mid-range specs and somehow we keep coming back to melee. I’m honestly just flabbergasted at this point how you manage to somehow keep linking 10-15 yard gain on Evoker so they’re on par with their counterparts, to an additional 40 yards on a melee class. Truly astonishing mental gymnastics my friend.
  • Then you transition briefly mentioning other ranged specs and almost defining a thought about melee as well. What were you trying to connect here?
  • Then you very vaguely say we have more benefits than a hunter, but again fail to give specifics as to what those benefits are. I’m amazed at how allergic you are to details.
  • And then somehow we come back to Afflic lock? I don’t know what the goal here was.

Ah, finally, a somewhat coherent question. Ahem, THERE’S NO POINT IN HAVING A MID-RANGE SPEC. Increase our range to be on par with EVERYONE else so we’re not gimped.

Your brain is so smooth, that aliens wouldn’t even bother cracking it open.

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There is no advantage to losing 40 yards of range.

None.

Time for warriors to start throwing axes, but really, if you look at each class’s individual toolkits, they have different advantages and disadvantages.

Druids don’t have an immunity yet paladins do.

I don’t get your point why losing 40 yards of range is fine, but losing 10 to 15 is the end of the world lol.

Time to start campaigning for ALL melee specs to have functional toolkits at 25 yards, then we can see about moving evokers to 40.

Melee specs have lost 40 yards of range, that must be dire to you.

They have to be in melee, how DREADFUL.

Your ranged and healer comparisons do not work because now there’s a new category: Mid-range.

Just like how melee is melee, and not at 40 yards without loss of dps (looking at you, BM Hunter.)

Why take melee instead of BM hunter that can dps on the move, and be at range? (Yes, there are reasons.)

Please drop the melee nonsense. No one is talking about melee here. Why are you so dumb?

That’s the whole point Faux - mid-range should not exist. We’re actively gimped by it and get no positive trade off in return for it.

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Why should it not exist?

What is wrong with it?

They are brought to the RWF, they do decent in keys, (and aug is still OP.)

Aug is op at 25 yard range, and you’re telling me you want to grant them 40? lol.

Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it has to change.

Like no tank spec for evokers, no melee spec for evokers, no true ranged spec for evokers.

You idiot. We’ve already spent, literally hours on this thread and the one in the Evoker forums going over this.

You simply have the inability to comprehend anything. That’s the only conclusion I can come to.

I’m done riding this merry-go-round with you. I don’t know if there’s a language barrier here, maybe you’re super young, I don’t know but I do know that you have nothing to contribute here.

I’m done and good night.

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You don’t have an argument other than you don’t like it having 25 yards.

Removing 25 yards and making the melee (with no other changes) would probably make it a functional spec for you.

Now, we can have a literal melee healer.

Hoping one day you play a MOBA and realize that range doesn’t have to be equal to be desired.

Some champions have global ults.

Some have 3 min ults.

Others don’t really have ults.

Lols. What I posted in the other thread applies just as well here also:

I guess retarrded stubbornness wins this round, cause this is silly. Superiority complex from arguing against objective reality. The best we can hope is that when circumstances align to bring another Fauxtrasza into the world, someone steps in to stop it from happening.

Meanwhile back here in the realm of the truth, all we can do is wait for preservation to be designed to the same standard as every other healer in the game, as wild as that seems to some of these diehard fools. Its amazing how strongly some people will fight against something that would only benefit them.

These trash people always try to hide behind “it’s subjective!” When they decide to defend some insanely ridiculous viewpoint that no reasonable person would ever hold in the first place. Its like some dumbass who feels the need to fight for their right to be stupid.

And if the range were to change, would they put all this effort into arguing for it to be reversed? Nope. Because arguing vehementy against something that only benefits you is retarrded beyond belief. These people are liars and hypocrites.

Let them live in their made up fantasy world where they get to feel superior cause they “debate” (if you can even call it that) with “negativity” (also known as asking for design elements to make sense. The horror!). Once more, never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you soundly with experience.

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I’m sure healers like it a lot since Evokers will stay in the healing circle.

Melee specs will be stronger if all abilities had 40 yard range. Why are they still melee? It’s a silly argument.

And if the range were to change, would they put all this effort into arguing for it to be reversed? Nope.

It should not change, just as WOW should not have all melee specs with all abilities used at 40 yard range.

Stronger =/= Better.

for all practical purposes they are. you tap them…they fire off. Yes you have to stop moving for a micro-second, but for all practicality they can be used as instant casts.