Evokers in combat in their draconic human form "Visage Form"

Yes, and them being dragon themed is completely irrelevant when we’re talking about the bones of how the spec works mechanically. They could slap Aug on another class and I’d play it without looking back because, and I know this is a radical opinion to present before the council, but some people will choose gameplay over aesthetics when forced to make a choice between the two. That doesn’t mean however that given the option to have both, like I would with visage instead of Dracthyr form, I wouldn’t choose both.

As Dev, maybe, but Aug has a laundry list of spells that transform you for no discernable reason. Pres I assume is largely the same.

I’m for this for two reasons…

One: you can’t have non evokers use their racials in visage form and then turn around and say evokers must change because to preserve their dragon identity.

Like that’s a double standard…

How you gonna tell me a drac warrior can unfurl their wings while in visage form but an evoker can’t???

And if they can do that for their racials they should be able to do it for all draconic abilities…

If anything it makes sense for the class that emphasis on draconic combat to be able to master it in visage form and for the non evokers to be forced into dragon form.

Two: this would make it possible for all races to be evokers.

Sounds like a thread for the Evoker forum and not the normal people forum

Then what replaces Breath of Eons? Some rando spell that summons a dragon like Death Knight’s Frost Wyrm’s Fury? How about Hover? Do we just turn blue and levitate like a Priest? Congrats, you turned 2 innovative and interesting spells into cookie-cutter copies of existing spells.

Again, the dragon theme isn’t irrelevant when THAT’S THE POINT OF THE CLASS. It’s like arguing that you don’t want to be forced to shapeshift in the Druid class or drop totems in the Shaman class. Since you want to bring up choice, here’s a choice for you; If you don’t want to be a dragon, don’t roll the dragon class.

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It was? Source? I don’t remember this. (Not doubting you, just don’t recall hearing/reading this)

Simple the visage form flies with wings coming from their back and they breathe fire down avatar fire bender style

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This is always my favorite flex in these subjective discussions…

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Which would look utterly silly and never be implemented. Blizzard would opt instead to go the Frostwyrm fury route.

Good thing I (Don’t Know) the majority of the player base or can speak for them, but that sure won’t stop me from throwing words around as if I do. :+1: :disguised_face:

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Simpler still: the visage form is taxing of your draconic abilities just how it’s been described in lore since Knaak, therefore you only get minor spells like living flame in visage.

I like visage existing, I like having the option, I like that being able to interact with mortals incognito is a given part of the fantasy of “playable dragons” we were sold at blizzcon before DF, I can do a lot of open world stuff in visage if I feel like it.

But if the devs decided to be a bit mean and tied the mastery racial to not being in visage I’d say it’s fair.

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Lmfao I said things like this but people straight up hate to hate it’s funny really

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How would it look silly??

You have no imagination if you think it can’t be done

Also, I would like to create and play a dragon, but I want said dragon race to give me the option to Always be in my visage form while in or out of combat. This way I can bypass playing a dragon race, while being in dragon form. :disguised_face:

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That’s a copout lol

This is a need idea… like visage form leaks mana passively and increases the mana cost of spells

Imagine your current character (an Orc) with magical dragonwings sticking out their back and them spitting fire from their mouth as they fly around like Tinkerbell from Peter Pan.

If you think that looks cool or interesting, I seriously question your tastes.

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I mean it depends on their flight stance and the wings how they look.

It CAN look cool…

Or hear me out… How about you turn into drac for deep breathe and revert back to visage form when it ends…

Like a DH using chaos nova or eye beam

Nobody should care about whatever Knaak wrote because he’s a garbage writer and his “lore” is trash.

Or you can enter combat in your visage form and when you activate an ability like Deep Breath that requires drac form you enter that form and stay that way. When combat ends, you immediately return to visage form.

Which you can do right now via Chosen Identity.

Then make a human?