You vastly underestimate the amount of players that think tanking as a dragon is awesome. Class fantasy sells.
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Kind of agree with me:
Tank Paladin would play as Tank Evoker (if possible)
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Sure, but people act like adding evoker tanks wouldn’t increase the tank population. How is that possible if a lot of tank mains are switching to evoker? More importantly, how about all the people that would tank as evoker just because of how cool the concept is? My friend was scared to tank, never wanted to try, until seeing the blood specialization on dk. Now my friend tanks just simply because blood as a spec is cool to them. Same thing would happen with Earthwarder.
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The point is: Evoker not having a tank spec takes away from two demographics of potential tanks. The ones that have tanked in the past, and the ones that would start just because of the class fantasy. This is a problem, we already had a tank shortage before Evokers, now it’s much worse. Most important of all, it’s a missed opportunity just on class fantasy alone. Just as OP said, a lot of people want to play this, have thought about playing a spec like this for years.
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There always was a tank shortage.
Adding 3 classes each able to tank didn’t change anything.
Adding a class that can’t won’t change anything.
I’d rather argue that the race needs to be able to tank and not the class
Because if dragon tank is the fantasy, why nor dragon warrior?
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Because I want the powers of the black dragonflight as a tank. Black and bronze, or even black and red. An Evoker tank spec is the fantasy, not a warrior wielding axes, that’s for the common mortal races, not a dragon. A DRAGON tank. With the aspects of obsidian and fire. C’mon.
Man, nice that everyone is playing evokers right now. So excited and now we have a large amount of players on healer and dps specs… sure would be nice to have some tanks in that mix… feels like that might be making some queues right now go a little faster… since everyone is using their new shiny evokers right now.
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Probably not significantly but it likely would increase the overall pool slightly if they fit certain class fantasies.
Again maybe not by a huge amount but based on this thread there are at least 2 tanks who are now no longer maining tank.
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Anyone can get stabbed in the stomach.
Dracthyr have the advantage of looking like they’re wearing armor at least.
Not only that, it doesn’t really make sense for them to learn other classes since they got the magic of the five aspects and ditching all of that to learn how to be angry is kind of weird.
Also it’s really criminal that they designed pieces that look sturdy but the class itself is just super fragile.
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I personally find this to be incorrect. It’s the toxic atmosphere that players created in LFD groups. If more people were patient with new/inexperienced tanks (inexperienced tank here) then more people would tank. As it is now I only tank for guildies that want shorter wait times
There really isn’t any way to contend what I’ve said as it’s the truth of the matter right now.
Everyone is on their evokers and as a result of evoker not having a tank spec we’ll be sans some tanks in queues for awhile until folk get bored with their evokers and migrate back to their other classes again. And some of them may never return to a class that has a tank spec simply cause they like Evoker anyways.
Now is that whole thing that simple? No of course not, there is no guarantee that a person on a tank capable spec would go for tank anyways but come on now. Everyone is playing with the new shiny class and it doesn’t have a tank spec. We’re down some tanks right now.
Regularly what you’re talking about is a standard issue and one that I do wish could be addressed easily, and I am sure its not helping right now, but its really mostly that the majority of the player base is, right now, on a class that cannot tank.
Honestly it was expected.
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I think this class especially has a lot of tank fantasy, I personally know loads of people that love the idea of tanking as a dragon with the black dragonflight magic specifically, not a dracthyr warrior, but an Evoker Earthwarder tank. That would be my main, that would be a lot of people’s mains. Your ques as a healer would be so much shorter than they are now. It’s so dissapointing man.
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Evoker tank has stronger class fantasy than demon hunter tank
It is a bit silly to not have a dragon class be able to tank considering the dragonflights are loosely based on the dps/healer/tank trinity. So much so that they were designed for vehicle encounters in raids and dungeons in WOTLK.
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This is the biggest disappointment I can think of tbh, and I’ve been playing this game a long while. If Evoker could tank, I could see DF being up there with Legion and Wrath even.
Honestly, Lore, you’re a good friend and all, but I highly doubt there is a tank shortage. The reason why it is a little harder to find a tank these days is because of:
- People who want to be toxic towards others in pug groups.
- Most people rather try and tend to stick within the 1 guild or with friends because of the toxicity.
And this is one of the biggest problem with the WoW community. The toxicity that exist. Just coming to the forums in general, and you can see that toxicity here alone, take for example that one person who just kicks out any healers for not doing any DPS, when there is more better ways to handle situations.
And honestly, another thing I want to point out, I am actually happy that Blizzard did not add a tank spec to the Evokers, since they are actually the first “hero class” to not have a tank spec. Plus before the Evokers were added, there was more tank specs than healing specs. Evokers balance it up by making an event amount of choices between tanks and heals.
I really don’t understand how you could relish the fact that a choice was taken away, how that could possibly be a good thing. Not only is it good for the tanks that would love to play them, but it’s good for the healers and ranged DPS too with shorter ques.
Also, no one is saying Earthwarder tank spec would fix the tank shortage, but it certainly would help. I started maining a tank just because I loved captain america and saw a prot pally throwing his shield around. Tanked for years after that, specifically because of that. My friend played blood dk specifically because she loves vampires and the idea of a blood dk fit what she loves in fantasy. Now we both play Evoker, that’s two tanks gone. We both started playing tank specifically because 1 tank spec looked or sounded like fun, that’s it. Earthwarders wouldn’t solve the tank shortage but it certainly would help. A lot of people would get sick of this que time and give Earthwarder a try and a lot of them would love it and become tank mains from here on out. A lot of people have fantasized about playing a dragon tank with black dragon magic since vanilla. You really have no idea how big this could be.
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Adding another class to tank is not going to make a queue for a dungeon shorter.
Dracthyr tanking just might be the ultimate gift, if only the gods of war (Blizzard) would hear us calling out to them in our wishes.
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Dude literally what would you lose if they added it? How could it possibly harm you or be a negative to you in any way? It wouldn’t. they wouldn’t even need to change the class talent tree, everything could remain untouched for the two existing specs.
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