Ahhh… “perpetual spec”
I like it.
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You do know that the game is not designed with that in mind, you can’t even dodge/parry/block while casting.
I think the better answer is to open the classes at the start of the expansion rather then make your “mid ranged tank caster”
This.
And this.
Nobody gives a damn that you think the request to have a tank spec on Evoker isn’t nice. It’s a request. You don’t have to like it, you don’t have to agree with it, but don’t try to shut down discussion of it with “my feels!!”. That’s intellectually dishonest.
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currently tanks and heals are tied for spec per role ratio - I debunked your argument there
Again not quite right since disc is the only one that causes heals through damage where as pally and monk have to damage to amp heals, kinda different. Druid dont damage to heal but any good healer should learn to throw in some damage instead of just sitting there waiting for damage to go out
Cool H pals use int and spells but still do physical damage as well, how is that an argument against a int based caster tank? If you havent noticed I main a hunter and just because the damage is physical you are very much wrong in saying MM is not a caster, the only difference is we cant get silenced/ magic locked which u can call a specific nich amongst range.
again you are someone i am not trying to convince, the confirmation bias is strong in this one and the logic is flawed with double standards like cant tank as an evoker because of soft under belly but can tank as a gnome or dracthyr brew master…but here is just one post with reasons that make sense and arent hypocritical
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It’s great to see the recent surge in support for this. I can’t stress enough just how much it makes sense for Evokers having tank. This fantasy can not be fulfilled with any other existing class and the opportunity will never arise outside of Evoker.
Listen to logic, and the community feedback.
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DH and Monks can mitigate while casting, why not evokers?
you do know this guy also says that evokers shouldnt tank because they have soft underbellies while also asking for a dracthyr tank, sorry it just makes more sense for a evoker dracthyr to tank as the dracthyr learn our ways of fighting over the next few years… you know since they never met us and we never met them to teach them the ways of a war or monk etc
Again why would it make sense?
Why would they have a need to tank?
They were literally in stasis for the last 10k years.
Being a caster and heal is all they know.
What you describe says that Dracthyr should get other classes as they meet us and get to know other things.
im with you buddy, lets make it happen. There are way more people like us who need to speak up but are too scared because of people like Frara who just dont want that fantasy but instead provide alternate less logical one. This guy is in like 5 different thread talking nonsense just trying to shut the idea down, along with players who literally lose nothing at all
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are you confusing instant casts skills and spells with cast bars now?
I think you are just hard at understanding a concept that isnt aligned with yours, they have been asleep for 10k years so they never learned tanking spells from Deathwing? more flawed logic? You are also talking like their lore is written in stone, its all still being developed and nothing is finalized until it is. Its as easy as blizzard making it so because enough people want it, Congradulations you are not one of those people so i better not catch you on an evoker tank when they actually listen to us. Also i stated more classes would be the second best option over time but doesnt beat out the best option of an evoker tank
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good thing that I had other logical reasons too right? Read the read of the posts Instead of going off on a ‘your feelings are hurt’ tangent please.
Evokers are supposed to be the caster hero. That means it is inherently a ranged class and that means avoiding getting hit in the face when possible. People have been waiting 18 years for something to fill this niche. Making it a tank that takes damage to the face takes away from it while also forcing Blizzard to retool all the baseline spells to better fit a tank role
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WRONG AGAIN! fel devastation is a channeled ability that does not get interrupted while getting hit and allows you to mitigate while channeling, and for monks chi burst/blast whatever the name is allows you to mitigate while CASTING. you simply take that same philosophy and incorporate it into the evoker’s tool kit while in tanking specialization.
A little more to add to this, you also wouldnt be changing everything. Pretty much only disintegrate and living flame get tweaked a little while in that spec and you get 2 or 3 extra tanking casting buttons from your spec tree to replace/enhance eternity surge, fire storm and shattering star. Still have to plant and cast your empowered spells. Still have to keep up mitigation. Still have to kite and cc at times. Still have to manage essence/mana. Still have to be within 25yd range.
in big sparkly magic letters with butterfly hands effect
CASTER TANK
Ok? ok!
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You are using different definitions and assigning different meaning to what Blizzard has designed.
Caster hero what does that mean? Hero class is literally a class that usually requires you to have at least 1 max level character because it comes with a higher skill cap and starts at a higher level. It is not better or worse than other classes. You literally still have a caster hero class with a tanking specialization along side devastation and preservation
I would argue Angron.
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Rather Blizzard focus on making the best singular caster class possible than having yet another three role class that has bits and bobs that only a quarter work and are actually effective.
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that is a lot of assumptions. as it stands right now it is not the best caster, it is a unique one that isnt fully polished at that. It is also a healer and a damage dealing caster, why are you so set that there cannot exist a caster/intellect based tank? other than you dont like it? AGAIN we arent taking the caster away from your little heart, it is by all means a fully fleshed caster…that should also tank (as a caster) because its a freaking dragon caster
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I needs to be said more that in the RBGs, there’s only one tank per team, for only the carry-maps, and there is usually only 1.5 viable tanks.
Again, you also missed the rest of it where I said that Blizzard would have to retool the current abilities to fit into whatever balance Blizzard has with the rest of the tanks.
Not even going to get into Blizzard also adding two more specs to balance to the 35 other ones doesnt help when they can barely keep half of those reasonable.
so AGAIN not really a feelings thing but a logic one based on the willingness of actiblizz to do their jobs effectively. IDK why people keep bringing feelings up outside of the fact I said I felt the request wasn’t right or nice because I want Blizzard to be able to make’ not tank classes’ as well. It’s ok for the new class to not be a tank
Yes it is the least concerning issue… but that also makes it the easier issue to tackle… Blizzard doesn’t want to give us more classes on Dracthyr in DF, and we might not even get more classes for them next expansion either… a new spec that fills the one remaining role and playstyle simultaneously is the simplest and best thing we can ask for right now.
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