Evoker Melee Spec brainstorm

Yes I’m bringing this back up.

Here is an Evoker wielding a polearm from the intro of the dracthyr.

Yes it is an evoker because this came out way before they ever confirmed they were ever gonna let dracthyr have other class options.

I’m not sure why they did this. It may have been an oversight somewhere, but this triggered me when they announced they were not going to have a melee spec. And I also remembered back to this cinematic when they announced a third spec and got my hopes up again. They said it was going to be a ranged support. Not that it wasn’t cool or anything, but it’s not what I was hoping for.

Please share your ideas of how you would want it to look (abilities/attacks). Please keep your comments constructive, don’t bring up dracthyr appearance/visage discussions, and also please don’t shut down the idea of a melee spec. Also dracthyr getting other classes is irrelevant to evokers getting melee.

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Probably arms warrior, but with the dracthyr race lmao. :stuck_out_tongue: jk jk

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My vision of a melee spec revolves around them using polearms or 1h and shield (polearms and dragonkin just seem to fit well aesthetically imo but sword and board does sound cool too).

My mind kinda wanders to Final Fantasy with the Dragonlancer when I think of Dracthyr and polearms.

I also think about some of survival hunter and warrior abilities (flurry and whirlwind) being reimagined to be more dragonesque.

There’s also things that evokers were made to do: use the powers that all dragonflights are capable of (life/nature, arcane, fire, earth, time).

If I’m going to be completely honest, augmentation had a great base for a melee spec. I loved the idea of igniting weapons with fire breath to add extra fire damage to attacks.

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Don’t remind me, I would have loved a melee dps spec for Evoker! Something like an hybrid between melee and range would have been really nice to keep the caster tone of Evoker. You could build up your Essence using spells in range and once you have 5/6, you dash into melee to unload the built up Essence before going back into range.

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If we consider the evidence at hand, it seems like conceptually Augmentation was meant to be a melee oriented spec, probably a tank.

The Polearm wielding Dracthyrs in that image were Emberthal and her weyrn specifically and we know they were augmentation evokers. Also on the quests where she accompany you previous to the one with Adamantia’s release she can be seen fighting at melee range.

Also on the Scaleborn war novel (spoilers ahead). She nearly soloed Razageth using a polearm and was about to execute her with it before Razageth aimed at the Oathbinder.

This makes me think that on concept augmentation was probably supposed to originally be a melee oriented spec using polearm and black dragon magic to enhance its own defense and/or offense, probably a non shield tank spec. Until someone at blizzard probably said “so… Uh… So what about if we make it a range support spec instead and hope that people just forget that we already showed them wielding spears in official canon media”

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This. Like 98% of things Blizzard does, it was an oversight.

As for my ideas, I want there to be a void spec. Not this Blue/Red/Green/Black/Bronze nonsense. I want Sarkareth void melee stuff, hell even make it a tank. Void Aegis, Voidblade, Empower spell giving you armor like Blistering Scales to live tankbusters.

Too many cool ideas for Blizzard to never do, Evokers are never going to be getting anything new I don’t think. If they didn’t get new fancy stuff except for Aug in their OWN expansion- they’ll never get it otherwise.

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It’s been about 1-2 weeks since release, perhaps the class type extension for us dracthyr will be announced soonish?

During the beta release that Aug was coming out, Blistering scales was labeled in the build data history as a tank ability. So I think you’re nearly 100% correct.

And we’re all the poorer for the direction Aug did go in.

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A black dragonflight/void tank spec on evoker would make me so happy.

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I’m definitely not saying you’re outright wrong here so please don’t misunderstand me. But I really wanted to make sure that people know this.

So basically, every Evoker is a Dracthyr BUT not every Dracthyr can be an Evoker.

Our Dracthyr player character is actually a pretty rare individual. We are basically like the Avatar and can use all 5 of the Dragonflight’s magic granting us the title of Evoker.

With that being said, many Dracthyr (like the ones wielding Polearms in that cinematic) are most likely just Dracthyr Warriors (with only 1 flight’s magic imbued into them).

And we will be getting other classes for Dracthyr soon enough.

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Evoker melee?? Yikes

I was more thinking augmentation would be a spec that creates its own weapons\uses magic from its own claws\hands or creates swords\polearms to attack with. I hope it wouldnt be a tank spec mostly because i dont play tank ever.

I think if they do a melee spec it would likely feel a bit like enhancement just without pets or totems and it would be half melee half range attacks like enhancement. Instead of pets and totems it focuses more on flight\mobility and mixing aspect powers together to create spells for offensive\defensive means.

Moves that let you fly up into the air then smash down into the earth and shatter the ground, stuff like that. Just get the class dev to watch some avatar the air bender and watch the earth bending arc.

I also think them changing argumentation is a good chance of it happening since dracthyr representation is terrible and most people dont like the spec.

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Evokers are already melee. 25y
Ret pallies have about the same range…
All they need to add is swing animations to every spells

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When i think of melee evoker, devastation but with melee animations dont come to mind. Devastation feels like a mid range caster with high mobility.

You dont want to be in melee range at least in pvp on dev evoker. But my idea would be melee evoker would want to be in melee range, and all the abilities would be about melee\mobility\gap closers etc.

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Yeah, I mean, I understand some people here like the idea of a melee Evoker but in my opinion, I vastly prefer casters and would actually love it more if they leaned into the magical caster vibes even more with 10 extra yards added to the class (35 yards). If Devastation was ever made into a melee spec (which I doubt would ever happen, ever) it would completely obliterate the spec for me.

Plus, Dracthyr Warriors are coming, and I can only assume 1 or 2 more melee specs on top of that— whatever they may be. Now, I have to wonder what Blizz is going to do with the Dracthyr racials for these other classes. Will they keep the wing flap and tail swipe? Or will they get something new? I’d be interested in non-Evoker Dracthyr getting another additionally Draconically flavorful ability to make you really feel like a dragon even more on the other classes.

We just need to able to auto attack with azure strike with our 2 hand weapon. Rest of devastation spell is channel or instant anyway. The range is like half melee…

Maybe a melee stance where all you damage spell is now melee range but you able to auto attack while channeling would be a start.

Honestly, I’d be fine with a glyph doing something like that lol

Make it a tank, use wings as part of your protection kit instead of a shield (although I would prefer fist weapons as the core melee or at least as a viable melee alternative) - hardening wings and body with black magic, maybe mix blue magic (arcane shields) and either green or bronze for self healing for the two other tracks

Sort of notably the only utility specs they added to the dracthyr kit as prot warrior, holy priest and disc priest, so the race still has barely any options for tanking (but with pre healing is covered by two classes)

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Warrior being given to dracthyr is a distraction thing. “See? Dracthyr can tank, you got exactly what you wanted!” Even though it’s nothing even close to whats desired for dragon tanking.

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