No, it doesn’t do that at all actually. And in order to get those higher level items they’d still have to do high end M+, as I stated before.
How can you speak for everyone?
Not at all. I acknowledge that the content is available to 100% of the player base. However, the statistics seem to indicate that, for whatever reason, only 10% choose to access it. As a for-profit company looking to expand the appeal of my product, I’d want to take measures to address that statistic.
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So we have moved from “its all over the forums” to “they are so rare they rarely show up” to back to “its all over the forums”. Without being able to show a single example of it being all over the forums.
Its not. Just calm down.
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if the other 90% chooses not to access the content, why should they have access to the rewards from that content?
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Do you understand what the word aspire means? You don’t apsire to handouts. You just receive it.
So why don’t you go ahead and respond to this
Well here’s what I know. Vanilla and BC did create a situation where high level PVE gear ONLY came from high level PVE, and high level PVP gear only came from high level pvp, and these are the only two times in WOW’s history that we know of where subscription numbers actually increased consistently and largely across entire releases. During wrath things started to stagnate and everything since, more or less, has been falling.
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Eligos, you complain about the gearing system yet you’re covered in handout gear from world bosses and weekly events.
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You don’t need to do high end m+ to get 390+ gear. At 390+ you can start poking around in mythic raiding, and your gear would qualify you for high end m+. Which for many can be outside of their skill/experience level if they are not used to high end content.
then Blizzard would sit back and wonder why subs are down in comparison to when mythic+ wasnt a thing. IE: Wrath, BC, etc. If you are in the top 10% of your player base, you should be rewarded. Others should have something to strive towards. Not given things for free devaluing it.
So now because your top 10% feel like THEIR efforts are devalued, they quit. Then those that got hand-me-outs they quit because their is nothing left for them to do in the game. Strive to learn how to raid on a mythic level? Why? Theres not upgrade for me…
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Not at all. It is all over the threads where mythic raiders post. you are using the fact that mythic raiders are rare to claim that it is not a commonly held view.
It is a commonly held view among mythic raiders, which is the only metric that matters here.
I know, and it sucks. The gearing system is horrible, but you have to participate in it if you want to play the game. That’s what happens when you don’t have tokens and all those things that made gearing for a raid possible, and you replace it with welfare system that everyone is forced to use. Just because it exists doesn’t mean that it’s a good reward system. I don’t feel like I’ve earned half of what I have on, and that’s just not what the game used to be about.
No I am not.
I am saying even among mythic raiders its not a commonly held view.
You’re complaining about catchup mechanics not a gearing mechanic. A person who only geared using weekly quests and world bosses would be behind everyone else ilvl wise. Besides we have IO.
Kinda looking forward to the downfall and death of Retail WoW.
Hopefully we can get a new MMO that is an actual MMORPG and not some looter lottery skinner box that invalidates the previous content every 3-4 months. Games a joke.
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Catchup mechanics ARE gearing in modern wow.
No. I am not complaining about catch up mechanics. 390+ gear is not “catch up” gear.
No, actually you can do M+ and get all the gear you want. Which was my point. A person in mythic quality raiding gear now would have had to M+, just like last season.
Because blizzard likes their money ?
When M+ can get you over 400 and mythic raiding is 415, yeah 390 (which I don’t know where you’re getting that number) is kind of catch-up, but it’s not the number I was talking about it is the speed to which you would obtain it, but you completely missed that even though I clearly explained my point.
Actually it does matter. I’ve seen so many posts like these where either there was no reality behind the claim, or the situation was misrepresented.
Link to a scrub who has only done part of a heroic raid but has mythic gear or it didn’t happen.
Nobody in Legion could come up with a link to support their claim that lots of LFR heroes were fully geared in better-than-mythic titanforged raid finder equipment.
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If this “nuh huh! uh huh!” is the caliber of debate I can expect from you, I rescind my invitation to continue this later.