So you agree that harder group content is still better? Hah
aaaand the post got flagged. Iām proud of this community <3
Yes actually. Iāve mained a healer in various MMOs for over 20 years. I play MMOs (and WoW specifically) because I enjoy healing dungeons. I donāt have a problem with doing Mythic+s, they are actually the reason I returned to the game after quitting for years.
They only do it because they want the reward. Iām sure there are people that do it purely for fun, but when it comes to something like gearing, people are gonna take the path of least resistance. People raid because getting that better gear makes them feel good.
Iām sure there could be an alternative progression specifically for solo content though, perhaps another type of reward they could be earning as they continue. Iād certainly enjoy it a lot.
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Iām personally of the opinion that if the only reason people engage in a piece of content is because they have to, itās poorly designed content and should be removed.
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Thatās way over simplifying things. A pointless broad statement of no real value. Thereās should be things you HAVE to do. Thatās how games always and will always work.
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Thatās fine as long as they are enjoyable. If you have to do it, and it isnāt enjoyable, then it should be removed. Just because there are a lot of badly designed games out there, doesnāt mean we should advocate for more of them.
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You say you have 20 years of MMO experience but talk as if you have none. Almost as if you never even played a game.
Yep thats very true. We all pay a sub. We all level, we all deal with bag space, we all have to equip gear, we all have to perform actions in a set series of sequential motions to achieve even a simple outcome.
Do we all have to work?
Do we all have to have kids?
Do we all have to have a mortgage?
Do we all have to do LFR?
Do we all have to do world quests?
Do we all have to do the quests to level?
Do we all have to use the auction house?
Why does raiding have this asinine glow about its value?
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Yep, if you want to play a game where you donāt have to do things then go play Minecraft creative mode. Thatās about the only game where you donāt have to do anything.
Oh hey more personal attacks. Much surprise. So salt.
I understand what youāre saying, but if you want something you have to go through the challenge. Thatās not to say they donāt get any enjoyment from it though.
The feeling of getting the gear that they want and making their character as powerful as possible is the reward theyāre after. If they could just do it all by themselves, then they would. But that doesnāt mean that they didnāt enjoy raiding, it just means that it no longer feels as rewarding to do it.
Hey,i donāt do anything when iām fishing but i do enjoy it 
How am I mad? Youāre the one who keeps saying āsaltā. Self projection doesnāt equal reality. Iām just not afraid of calling out dumb things. Thatās all.
Probably the relentless personal attacks in almost every one of your posts to me. Maybe? Nah couldnāt be.
Well when youāre not even reading my replies I gotta get through somehow. But sadly thatās all you focused on. But can you blame me? You kept asking for an argument after I gave one repeatedly.
Really ,you sure seem to be for the last hour you been laying into him,dude.
Yes,we can.
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Thatās why all Iām asking for is a different type/pace of challenge for the majority of players who clearly donāt like the current ones on offer. No one should just be handed BIS gear for dinging max level.
You should collate them and quote them out. Cause it would lend itself to identifying bias.
Or u know, let it lie.
Heās great entertainment though. Some people have to pay for this level of comedy.