It’s a warning. They have to see it to get it.
These people don’t care.
They are the reason trash like TBC exist to begin with.
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People who care spec properly for PvP.
People who care spec properly for PvE.
This happens today, in TBC, and it happened in Classic.
bug fixes =/= dual spec
dual spec is a “minor QoL change” like LFD and LFR are “minor QoL changes”
I think you missed the point. It isn’t about speccing properly. It’s about not wanting changes that lead to another version of Retail.
Retail has dual spec. If you want that. Go there. Don’t ruin Classic for others simply because YOU want stuff.
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Retail is an awful dumpster-fire today for a variety of reasons, but it still has a few good core QoL elements to it that have been added to the game over the years. The trick is integrating those good elements into a WoW game that has the basic class/spec play feel of Vanilla/TBC/WotLK.
Dual Spec was the single best change in Wrath.
It didn’t ruin anything, and it’s not why Retail sucks.
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As long as it’s well thought out and tested that’s what I’m saying as well. But some people don’t want to wait and don’t understand how dangerous rushing anything is even if it looks like a great idea. I’m sure Blizzard thought every horrible idea they’ve ever implemented was a great idea in the beginning.
These are not even in the same universe lol
Ok
Pay another 1000 gold like I’d want you to pay for dual. Then you still have to pay a full Respec coat for respeccing into the other tabs, just like if you visited your trainer.
Cold take lol.
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Whooooosh…
I was agreeing with you on Wrath by the way lol.
when you call something as huge as dual spec a “very minor QoL change”, you lose all credibility. just fyi
yes, in retail. retail sacrificed spec identity for class identity. go play that
Didn’t retail also focus so hard on spec identity that they wanted to make it more like classic and “unprune” classes so the flavor returned?
Spec identity only really became a thing in legion, prior to that it was class identity, but in current SL, it’s back to class identity.
Both games are in a phase of class identity because classic sure as hell does not have the division between specializations. Ah yes, my rogue spec of stab with small weapons, stab with big weapons, or stab with a better cheap shot. Muh spec identity lul
I mean that’s just it dual spec has no effect on you.
You’re under no obligation to use it and guilds will exist that will accept the role you decide on.
#Embrace Change
uh if you don’t know the difference between the various rogue specs, that’s a you problem
People have stated downsides to dual-spec countless times mate but you don’t choose to recognize them as downsides because you’re blinded by the upsides. I’m not super opposed to dual-spec but I honestly would prefer not having it.
Just a few downsides:
- Economic inflation: dual spec would drastically cut down on gold spent. I myself spend 100-100g-200g per week on respeccing. I’ll take 150g for an average. We have had 8 weeks of classic, so roughly 1200g extra if dual spec was available. Were still in phase 1.
- Tank / Healer tips: Tanks / Healers make their money helping folks through dungeons. They don’t really have efficient ways to farm gold (outside prot pala) as compared to DPS classes. You could say, well they would have a DPS spec now! Sure, but what if they enjoy doing dungeons for tips instead? What if they dont have gear for that set? You are negatively impacting those players.
- Raid spots: If dual spec is available, raid spots become a lot more competitive. You no longer need a holy pal and ret pal, etc… You could easily swap prot->ret when needed instead of having another member in your guild.
The list goes on. And you might blow them off as not problems or not impactful. But that is your opinion, to me I’d rather see these things in the game than dual spec to cater to retail crowd.
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Lol, nah but I’m not getting into an argument with you, just a waste of time
People literally have infinity gold from doing GDKPs
You don’t want it because there will be less demand for the roles in short supply? weird take
You are probably already in a guild, and it wouldn’t really effect anything regardless, because you still play your main spec 99% of the time.
Dual spec is mostly for dungeons, pvp, or open world farming