More likely they’ll deactivate them and maybe azerite traits and boy will people start crying then.
I guess that would be the case if you were bleeding edge raiding. I mean for 99% of the population it doesn’t really matter. If you are bleeding edge raiding you would already know that you need multiple mains.
Will be the same as legiondaries were prob. They will stop working at lvl 55.
I wonder if they will give any reward for people who did grind essences through rank 1-4
its insane to think they will just instantly pop em off
If they’re not going to make essences account-wide, they could at least tell their UI to stop rubbing it in.
YES, THANK YOU, BLIZZARD. I’M AWARE I HAVE EMPTY ESSENCE SLOTS. I’LL BE HAPPY TO PUT SOMETHING IN THEM AS SOON AS THIS ALT ACTUALLY HAS A THIRD ESSENCE, YOU CAN STOP SHOWING ME THE POP UP ANYTIME NOW.
Or put in like 2 hours of time and stop that message from coming up? Literally you can get crucible of flame and breath of the dying rk1, focusing iris 1, worldvein essence etc incredibly fast.
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ooooooooor blizz can just not spam.
Let’s be clear about something: Lucid dreams is the worst idea I’ve seen in this game since Molten Front (which still holds the crown).
That said, getting essences aint as bad as it seems.
I got an alt to level 120 two days ago, a friend of mine carried me through 5 mythic dungeons of increasing difficulty until we reached M10, because honestly we didnt feel like bothering more people to carry me through that. Between M+ loot, Pandaria world boss (use a token) and loot you get through questing (purples from cloak quests, mechagon intro trinket, WQ rewards), my alt is already 450ish.
In two days my alt is already 10ilvls below my main, pushing M10s. This means I can get memebeam r3 in 3-4 weeks depending on how much time I invest in it, VoP will be r3 by tomorrow (waiting for mechagon’s daily), breath of the dying is bis even at r1.
My point is, without essences there wouldnt be anything to grind because gear is so easy to acquire.
I mean most people were 450 coming out of 8.2 so your alt has really only caught up with previous patch there but is still behind on essences because Blizzard from some reason wants to keep them time gated.
Never touched vanilla nor tbc so I can’t comment on that
how is timegates quality of life all it does is restrict you for playing the game you paid for, and lets just say for reference it takes 5 hours to level up your neck to 80 but you can only work on the neck 20 minutes every day that doesn’t help the “casuals” nor the “top x %” it literally just slows down the game just so you can stay logged on. How would I never catch up when the system is capped so I can just grind out the same content someone else grinded.
I never said I wanted your main to be gated nothing should be time gated in this game other then events and holidays, again maybe your not understanding me and the people who want the account bound essence but im fine spending time on my alts but that time has to be actual time I can spend in the game and not waste on repetitive dailies, my power shouldn’t be tied to reputation period. If I could just level, get my gear and then be “finished” without being at a major disadvantage, then i’d do it.
Wanna know why people say its more alt friendlier
yes everyone knows classic it takes a long time to level but once you hit max level all of your gear is tied to dungeons, raids, honor aka the actual game content, if classic leveling speed wasn’t so long it would be way more “alt-friendly” in my opinion. If you don’t mind me asking though why is account wide essences so bad in your opinion, why do you hate them? why do you not want players to play the game they purchased? Why is staying competitive going for BiS minmaxing such a bad thing for you? If you wanna spend 20 minutes doing dailies for reputation go ahead but i’d perfer if I could get reputation through Battlegrounds, Arena, Dungeons, and Raids so i can actually play the game and not get gimped on trying to do all the uldum, mechagnome, nazjatar dailies on all my alts instead of actually playing the game I enjoy.
I’m perfectly fine with how the neck level works, im still not a fan of azerite but lets say there isn’t even a catch-up system since AP can be grinded indefinitely what im not a fan of is how all the essences aren’t based off of your neck level but instead all the reputation, at least worldvein, blood of the enemy, crucible, can be grinded infinitely but everything else is like based off the day and week and I just wanna go spam mythic+ but I can’t even do that because I have a huge checklist of dailies to do before I start.
Literally 8 hours for cloak, almost all rank 1 essences and 75hoa.
Yes, yes you can. If you can as an 380 arcane mage, you can with anything.
You must ask for it, honestly doing the bonus quests is more than enough.
It took 1 hour and 30 mins the entire questline. Second char doing it.
Farming AP? War campaing and forge boost you up to 75.
You dont farm AP.
Crucible rank 4 comes for free, mechagon is 15 mins, pvp ones are ridiculous to get if you have at least 1 friend. And so on. Most of it comes passively.
Portals and the longest rp part is… literally the vision in uldum when you with magni.
I got accepeted
And i amde my own groups too.
Btw just some quick heroics after the 8 hours boost up your ilvl signficantly
i went from 380 ilvl to 420 in less than 13 hours played.
And now im 450 and finished the pvp rewards lol.
One with people to play with?
Being brutally honest soo far you didnt even know whistle did beat up flying in several ocassions to do dailies.
It is literally a non issue if you can’t play your alt for 8 hours to make it viable to at least do m0 and low ranked pvp, you are literaly below average.
I would suggest forget alts, mains and the game and actually improve yourself because ad hominem is the only thing you have done soo far.
You get a 120 in less than 3 days played by just bging with the pvp trinkets btw.
120 is also not hard.
Oh well
i’ll make a TLDR
You are wrong,
classic is full of grind and rng due timegated bis on a single raid boss or extremely low drop rates.
And more than a half of the classic servers lost most of its players with regions like LA being completely dead.
I think this will have to do because i am not willing to draw it to you.
You can answer. But this conv is pretty much done, since all you can say is classic is good… even though its looking like WoD tendency of hype then death lmao.
Also, check your eyes in the hospital. Considering your parses it seems you can’t deal with MC either due your sensitive eyes.
Umm…
/10c
“And” being the operative word there. You have to do it all to feel complete in your preferred area of the game. You have to grind 50k honor for BotE for M+ on most mdps specs for example.
Gonna be an easy transition for me.
Im going to dungeon my characters up to SL content and skip right over BFA with the bulk of the ones that I didnt work on literally at all after seeing this was just another mindless AP grind in BFA.
Not interested.
When they want to give me INTERESTING content instead of mindless numbers go grind, I’ll play the game again.
I am worried about essences.
Go check my logs, my sims, my raider io.
I just wanna play my damn alts and do the content I enjoy on my alts that is current raid and m+ keys
I don’t wanna do the same dailies or honor grind for the 5th time.
Account wide sssences nao!
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Your lowbie army of alts wont need high ranking Essences. They wont do much content anyways.
They can live with just lowbie rank essences which is easy to get.
Your problem is you want a lowbie alt to get rank 3 Essences just inheriting it from your main. IT WONT HAPPEN.
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I know you never played vanilla. I can tell by your comments. You don’t remember what this game was like before qol was added.
Time gates exist for many reasons. But caps exist to protect players. The neck, cloak, rep gains, raid lockouts, M+ requiring keys, etc all exist to protect you.
Otherwise players would be lvl 30 in their cloak by now. Level 100 in their neck. They would farm the mythic raid multiple times per day. They would do unlimited keys. Your alt would have no chance, let alone your main.
Look at what is happening with the HWL/ GM grind in classic. Players bot and account share 15-18 hours a day. There is no way to compete without also botting. Look at how many people they had to ban for botting bgs in MoP/ WoD.
There is a reason terms like like living in your mom’s basement drinking redbull and peeing in a bottle exist. It’s because games used to reward time investment so heavily a new player or casual player could never hope to compete. Casual used to mean time played, now it means content difficulty.
These things were changed for a reason. New players that did not play vanilla or bc have forgotten this reason.
But your character’s power has always been tied to reputation. Since day 1. Gear, patterns, materials, enchants, etc have all come from rep. This is not a new change, its an evolution of a system that has always existed.
Yes, if you ignore the weeks of leveling to reach max level it’s great…
The reality is that the majority of the essences and gear come from this game’s primary content, raiding, pvp, and keys. And are acquired in less time /played then it use to take just to reach max level, let alone get gear.
There are a few that come from rep. All of these grinds have been lessened to give your alts help. But they are not free. Character power has never been account bound.
You want Uld rep for doing Wsg? This in an rpg. That makes zero sense. Players asked for the adventure rpg open world content to come back. They have added content to make the open world relevant.
And you aren’t just doing rep. You are farming ap, ctas/ conquest, prof materials and doing wpvp. These have also always been apart of this game.
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My blacksmith/engineer is not the character I ground flying on, and will need to get Mechagon reputation (and honorbound) to level professions. It would be nice if she could survive the process. The hunter I ground flying on (I use a different character each expansion so it’s slightly less repetitive) is super-strong and a good addition to each rares battle—the dk not so much.
Essences are really the only system that isn’t baseline though… Alts get the azerite neck at like 60 or 70 or whatever it is for free now. Azerite is basically free through WQ emissaries and Benthic. Essences are a function of 8.2 and 8.3 with 8.2 reqs having been reduced. 8.3 corruptions are RNG which there is nothing anyone can really say/do about it and the cloak has catchup built in as a new alt can skip the intro for the cloak and get the cloak to rank 6 in 1 reset…
Not to mention that with essences you can get rank 1 crucible, worldvein, focusing iris, breath of the dying in under 2 hours.