Epic Premaders Can't Even Stick Around to Fight Their Own

If you want a mode for large, organized groups go do what blizzard has provided instead of exploiting and ruining the game for others. But of course, you don’t do that because you can’t win fair fights.

In my experience people who are jokes begin to undergo the process not being one.

But premades have just accepted mediocrity by the looks of it and want to just sit in unrated content forever never accomplishing anything.

Which is fine i’ll just keep accomplishing things without them.

what has blizzard provided?

Have you ever considered that maybe the game isnt set up for large scale pvp?

Pretty evident to me given that the servers hard crash anytime there is a decent teamfight.

Perhaps you should go to a game that has more of a emphasis on that. like maybe new world or guild wars.

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Rated battlegrounds and wargames.

It’s pretty ironic coming from you considering the amount of achievement/rating shaming you do in these threads.

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this is the rated version of randoms, not epics.

is the guild version of dueling, its not a random mode as you have to challenge a team directly instead of letting the system pair you against one at random on a random map.

also, they took it out years ago, players only talk about it now because a few old timers remember the console command to bring up the UI. but even then it is buggy and offers no rewards.

and even then, wargames still happen from time to time, which you would know if you followed my youtube channel.

There is literally almost not a difference between queing into a random epic and queing into a wargame during peak hours most times they have between 30-35 in there. so the difference is like what 5 pugs oh wow.

Like if you really cared about quality games wargames is the ovbious choice. literally who cares about 500 honor a game if you just wanted large scale pvp and thats all you cared about.

Neither do epics really. Its just a glorified honor farm especially late season.

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Then play the game how it’s intended instead of exploiting and ruining it for others. There are plenty of games that have large organized pvp. But let’s be honestly here, you don’t want fair fights. You want to “pug stomp”.

Well its either that or personal attacks. and those are against tos so i opt to shame people in premades on how bad they are in the game.

I was always taught confrontation in school while i was in germany outside of very select scenario’s when you have a problem with somebody and what they are doing its usually the quickest way to end it.

But the key was to never act first cause if you do that then your responsible.

It goes like this

step 1. Try to solve the problem with negotiation and talking and then step 2 is force.

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Considering the long history of premade raids finding nefarious ways to farm PvP rewards as quickly and easily as possible (e.g. HKs for titles), it’s not surprising Blizzard didn’t add rewards to war games. Blizzard can’t trust premade raiders to respect the spirit of fair play and not abuse the system. With rewards and complete control over both teams, the temptation would have been too great.

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People like Inemia are destroying the game for others and he doesn’t care one bit. Straight up pathetic.

You really think i play for pve :joy:

Well given pve is 95% of the game. i’d hope so yeah.

I’ve never understood the idea of playing wow just for pvp. Like pvp has never…ever been blizzards priority and its pretty evident. Why not just go play a game that actually puts the emphasis and resources on pvp foremost instead of a game where its a afterthought.

There are games out there that are designed for pvp first and then pve builds itself around that instead of the other way around which is what we have here.

Pvp in wow has been pretty much left to crows as far as i can see rmt boosters overrunning brackets unimpeded bots everywhere premades allowed to ruin the unrated scene. Losing 200 rating in blitz because blizzards servers crashed. Solo shuffle mmr broken again this xpac which is killing the mode. Like where is the quality control at?

Want to know why i play?

Because battlegrounds excite me. The idea of different races and classes teaming up to defeat an opposing team in a random battlefield gives me such a rush.

Its beautiful honestly. Or do you think i want to do sleepy mythic+ or raids that you die to the same idea over and over again. (Like that one Nelly song)

If 95% of the game is PvE then i make part of that 5% that is otherwise.

But im not going to disagree with the people complaining about premades, it isn’t fair and i wish blizzard would give us a better option.

Id love to face you all on a battlefield, wether it be 2 vs 2 or 40 vs 40.

Lets get it

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People who dislike premades often prefer solo content and may struggle with team-based games. To cater to these preferences, Blizzard introduced Blitz.

Imagine you own a café that’s popular with groups of friends who come in for their coffee daily. Then, there’s a lone customer who visits every two weeks. This solo coffee buyer frequently complains about the long lines filled with groups ahead of him.

To accommodate him, the café owner sets up a special line just for him. However, the lone customer refuses to use this dedicated line. Instead, he insists on waiting in the longer line, bringing a pitchfork every other week to express his frustrations.

If you believe you’re a better coffee buyer than the groups that visit regularly, then Blitz should be perfect for you. After all, you have your own VIP line that lets you enjoy your coffee without the wait!

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Great freaking analogy.

Same resemblance but different outcomes

I play with my friends all the time, this whole “they only want solo queue” lie needs to stop. Nobody cares if people are playing within what the game allows. It’s when you queue sync and exploit to gain a huge advantage and ruin the game for everyone else.

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People dislike premade raids vs. random pugs in brackets that are not intended for premade raids.

Didn’t Blizzard introduce rated bgs and war games a while ago?

Imagine Blizzard explicitly tells you that your premade raids are ruining random bgs for everyone else and you’re driving people away from PvP. Blizzard asks you to bring your premade raids to brackets where you can queue as a raid.

Imagine not caring about the growth/health of the PvP community, so you keep sync queuing and roflstomping pugs and leaving pugs with half-empty teams.

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Its not a raid. It’s multiple 5 man groups clicking join at the same time. Important distinction. Refer to the blue post.

Do you know what you gain from wargames? Nothing. Whats the point other than bragging rights? Who cares about that?? I’d rather spend my time earning honor and conquest. I only get so much time to play the game so if you ask me would I rather spend an hour in a wargame and earn nothing or an hour in a regular EBG and earn honor/conquest…I’d rather have something to show for my time, thanks!

Yes, and they changed the rules so you can que 5 max…which is what the premade communities are doing. Which Blizz is OK with. Again, see the blue post.