Epic Premaders Can't Even Stick Around to Fight Their Own

I mean i know all these maps inside and out probably better than premaders do and i’m not in one. I would feel bad for “casuals” who have to go against 30 people with that experience gap in those bgs on them.

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Ya that’s been proven to not be true lol

I like playing epics as well, but I don’t exploit.

This isn’t what anyone is asking for. We are asking that you stop exploiting so the games are not so one sided.

So, blizzard lied? That’s wild. Go play wargames instead of ruining the game for others.

calling acceptable things you don’t like an exploit in order to get them banned isn’t going to work.

if you want less premades, make the pugs less toxic. people often decide to premade because they lose a winnable game due to toxic pugs, premades offer a community full of people who all want to play and want to win. quality controlling part or most of the roster means you can minimize the impact of toxic pugs and have a more enjoyable play experience.

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So, you can queue as a raid into randoms, and you don’t have to manipulate the queue in a way blizzard doesn’t intend? No? Then you are exploiting.

You are the toxic one bud.

That’s just a blatant lie.

Everyone wants to play and win, or they wouldn’t be playing. We just choose not to exploit to get wins.

Again…

YOU are the toxic one.

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we literally have two blue posts saying syncing is not exploiting. your opinion doesn’t matter, but among opinions that do matter, syncing is not exploiting.

To be fair getting caught up on the word ‘exploiting’ is silly.
What it is; is creating an unfun and unfair experience for everyone that isn’t you.
It is actively hurting the game y’all supposedly enjoy.
You can argue a blue post said it wasn’t bannable or something.
But the only one that blue posts comforts is you.
No one else agrees that its this super cool fun fine thing.(unless they’re part of it)

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its pvp, someone has to lose.

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This might be one of the best forum posts on this website.

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It definitely started as good will…

We might not have realized what we were really getting into. But we’re too deep

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No you don’t lol idk why you and Hirav keep pushing that lie.

Your opinion doesn’t matter either that’s why I simply am saying what blizzard has stated unlike you.

It would be you losing if you didn’t exploit.

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what a useless statement to be fair xD.
Thats like a family being murdered and me going “Eh its life, someone has to die”
Like ok… yes, someone has to lose, but do they have to lose to a premade and waste 30 minutes of their night in an impossible and unfun fight?
Should global elite CSGO players be able to queue into Silver CSGO players because “eh someone has to lose”?

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Careful Inemia already has an ego and thinks he’s one of the best players in the game. But you are right, but these bottom feeders need to exploit to get wins and feed their ego because if they couldn’t, they wouldn’t be able to win.

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It’s wow players in general.
Cant name a more iconic duo than WOW players and lack of morality.
Not that they’re commiting some cardinal sin.
It’s just simple stuff like; the entire wow community thinks they should roll need on items they dont need to be able to vendor it. Over someone who actually needs it.
Its the ultimate “I don’t know you therefore I owe you nothing; and infact am entitled to trampled over your fun for my own” attitude all wow players have.

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League players lol jk but you’re right. These people have no integrity or morals. They only care about themselves, and they don’t seem to understand what they are doing is driving people away from pvp. It’s only a matter of time before pugs just stop queueing and it’s just premade abusers dodging each other all day. That’s why they have come up with this “20 years” lie. Sure, people have been exploiting its wow, but sync abusers used to be very rare, but now there all day every day. People didn’t care when it was a rare occurrence. But they can’t comprehend this because all they are thinking is “look how many epics I win I am so good at the game”. It’s honestly just sad.

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Part of me wants to understand when they say “well we just want to get together with the bois and have a good time.”
But then I just ask myself why they dont queue dungeons like everyone else. Or raid.
Or go play classic.
Or play a different game that accomadates the type of gameplay they like.
And really the only answer I can come to every time is that its just the classic case of smurfs like smurfing.
People like crushing others with impossible advantages (for whatever reason, its never made sense to me)
Quick tangent: When I see someone getting ganked in world pvp I almost never add on. Let people 1v1, 2v2, or w.e is going on. I dont get any enjoyment from rolling up to a 52v1 I just dont get it. But some people do.
All I can think is thats these people. They are the ones that want to have a raid formed in elwyn forrest to gank level 1’s, but they know they’ll get banned doing that. (if it were even still possible x’D)

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I agree here it doesn’t make sense. Like I understand winning, but I want that earn that win, the most fun I have had is in close games, even if I lose, I don’t care because I had a good time.

Oh 100%, they simply do it because it’s an easy win that feeds their tiny sad ego. It’s why they will say anything to justify it and will call for the silence of anyone that doesn’t agree.

There’s losing in a fair matchup, and then there’s losing in an unfair/rigged matchup.

If you don’t see a difference:

^ That’s just in 10-person bgs. Now consider how many people’s fun get ruined by a premade raid in epic bgs and how many noobs get traumatized into never PvPing again.

Feel free to click on that post and see who wrote it.

Yeah, it’s selfish.

Blizzard literally told premade raiders they’re ruining random bgs for everyone else and they’re driving people away from PvP. Premade raiders just shrugged and kept sync queuing. They see the damage they’re doing to the PvP community, they hear about the damage they’re doing to the PvP community, and they don’t care.

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in game design you can have more open brackets and more restricted brackets. epics are part of the open unrestricted brackets so yes, you will find the equivalent of bronze going against platinum.

if you want a more restricted mode where players are placed in games according to their skill, play any of the rated modes, there is even two brand new rated solo modes, all of them use MMR to try to gain some semblance of SBMM.

Its cute how you consider yourself that. But no not even close.

And also any game or mode that allows that big of a experience gap to face each other is a joke and not to be taken seriously.

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then it doesn’t matter if people premade.