Epic Battlegrounds ARE competitive

Incorrect nobody is using teamwork in 2025.

The real list is as follows

But relying on teamwork is also an option if

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This is why you get smoked running into a raid alone. Regardless of rated or unrated, teamwork wins.

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Whoever uses glider and engineer shadowflame rockets get to hangar first in IoC.

You don’t think it’s important to get to hangar before Hadesu stops us on the ramp?

People lose because they come unprepared. They think RP walking to objectives will get them a win.

Glider to victory. SR? Cap the base faster if your team glides.

Ashran? Reach ROC faster for better positioning in team fight.

AV? Glider for the race to boss.

My experience in WSB is that when your team, literally dominates everyone with dps and heals, toys do not matter.

We… put them back in the bubble :stuck_out_tongue:

It never ceases to amaze me how many people on WG O don’t realize this.

I like your style !

I do get a chuckle reading some of you guys talking about premades as if they’re R1 elite god gamer gladiators in comms in full bis coordinating strats but even that wouldn’t be unfair or cheating or against ToS or whatever rubbish the sore losers say.

So I have to assume you guys think the premades are outright hackers spamming their kill-target macros.

No matter how people enter the game; it’s always 40v40, same gear, same UI, same buttons, same options, same everything but skill.

Losing is fine guys; you’re not meant to win them all. Sometimes you queue with a few big pipe hitters and sometimes you queue into them.

Spend more time getting good at epics rather than inventing a boogy man to blame and you’ll win more games.

I’m gonna go to the PvE forum and try to find a thread where people say that anyone using a LFG addon to queue mythics with a better team is cheating or something LOL

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Exploiting is against the rules. It’s very clear you’re just here to troll, also no it’s not always 40v40, I often start missing half the team because of sync exploiters dodging each other. No, it’s not fair for the majority of one team to but multiple groups sweating because they can’t win fair fight. I have said multiple times I don’t care if I lose, I simply want to have fun. But keep up the lies, it really helps your case.

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Dear Blizzard,

Some guys are really good at EBG’s and they kick my teeth in and humiliate me when I play against them.

I call them cheaters who abuse ToS because I think some of them clicked “join match” at roughly similar times maybe and they worked together which i find infuriating and unbeatable.

Please nerf and ban. :rage:

Kthanksbye,
L Bozo

That’s what you sound like btw.

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Preach it!

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You can try to downplay the massive advantage coordinated premade groups have against PUGs all you want, the advantage is obvious to anyone being honest with themselves. Not that I expect you to admit it. You clearly engage in these tactics and, like everyone else, will convince yourself it’s justified under any pretense. :man_shrugging:

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Where did I say that? You are just making stuff up bud.

Exploiting is against the rules. Maybe if you ever read them, you would know that. I’m better then all of them just FYI lol

But I didn’t say that, you did.

Some wild projecting bud.

Sucking at unranked/casual content is an option, too.

Are you the kinda guy to yell at pugs in normal dungeons for running a M+ route? Do you demand they slow down to a more appropriate, casual pace?

If you run the 5 timewalking dungeons this week and queue into fully geared PvE’ers who smoke the dungeon in 4 minutes; do you call them tryhards and say they’re washed out competitive players to cope with the skill diff?

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Trying to compare pve and pvp is weird, also 5-mans are allowed, it’s the sync exploiting that’s the problem. People are going around the allowed group size to gain an unfair advantage because they can’t win without it. It’s prob best you don’t reply before you make yourself look more like a fool then you already do, but I’m pretty sure you won’t stop anyways.

The magic advantage strikes again.

It’s still just 40 players on the enemy team vs 39 players and you on your team. If they communicate better they win. That’s how it’s supposed to work. These “premades” are just randoms in a community who queue EBG’s and some of them have a leader using raid warnings to coordinate the majority of the team which is also PUGS.

The group following a strat and communicating wins. Try it (by the way, just to be super clear; you being able to do exactly what they do is what makes it fair. You not doing it is what makes you lose).

Cool, so win?

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I don’t sync exploit. But I still can beat all of them in fair fight and have even won 1v3 fights against them. It just goes to show they can’t win without exploiting.

You keep ignoring the fact that it’s not always like that. Also, a team with the majority of them in discord is going to win against randoms because they can target call and tell people that they need help without typing. It’s an advantage plain and simply.

:man_shrugging:

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Shockingly enough; neither does anyone else.

I know you think some super serious gamers are dedicating their lives to getting 30 hand picked ultra elite gamers into your EBG’s but that just isn’t the reality.

All it takes is 1 guy using /rw or a few decent DPS/healers to win 90% of games. Trust me when I say that the level of coordination and effort you’re describing simply isn’t necessary or rewarded.

I can queue all night and win most games solo if I’m in the same rhythm as a few other familiar names (healers mostly). They aren’t a premade like the ones you imagine. Most of them also soloq or join a party. Even in the communities I’m in or have been in, it is rare to get 2 parties into thee same EBG and if it happens or not doesn’t alter the outcome. One party is more than enough for 90% of games.

Every now and then it’s a “premade vs premade” which is basically 1 group of EBG experienced players vs another and usually the outcome depends on the quality of PUGS, not the “premades”.

Some people are just good at, and enjoy EBG’s. If you get rolled its because they’re better, not because of when they pressed join queue.

Unless you see 35 guys using gliders at the start of an EBG, it ain’t a premade and the fiction you have created is actually a few good players affecting the outcome as it’s meant to be.

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Well, that’s just a blatant lie lol

Where have I ever said that?

Incorrect lol yet people do that level of coordination and effort lol there is videos of it

Why lie?

Why lie?
It’s clear you’re just going to lie as hard as you can. Unless this is an alt account you barely play anyways. Maybe sit this one out bud.

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All opinions other than your own are a lie.

It’s getting so old.

My dude, do yourself a favor. Just put Brigeet on ignore. Otherwise you’ll be stuck in a doom loop of circular arguments and being accused of lying.

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