Epic battleground is died

they still adress it since 2012 i think we might get a solution in 10 years or so

Then you should have nothing to worry about.

On the other hand, I keep hearing that PvP is dead and gone. Maybe Blizzard will revitalize it by getting rid of the premades running casual PvP.

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Less than 5% of the player base plays PvP, itā€™s more likely that Blizzard will let it rot and cut off the dead limb.

Then you also have nothing to worry about!

Why do you assume that Iā€™m worried?

there are no casual pvp there are pvp (arenas rated bgs and so on) and there are casuals (random bgs skirmishes and so on) casuals will never die but yeah the pvp is dead

and i cant understand why some people are worried of the premade issue like you should gear on bgs and keep going to rated
like why you stuck for so long on random bgs that the premade is an issue for you?

Because it reads that way

Oh well, thatā€™s your problem then.

Iā€™m not sure it is

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Itā€™s certainly not mine. Iā€™m not the one interpreting things though.

im not worried im just trying to bring some sense and explain to people that there are multiple angels to that problem and not just ā€œpremades are evilā€
most people are just too offended by premades and they cant reason sensibly

The justifications youā€™ve convinced yourself of donā€™t hold up to scrutiny outside of your echo chamber.

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what justifications?

and not just ā€œpremades are evilā€

I donā€™t think anyone is sitting here saying, ā€œman, premades are soo evilā€. I think thatā€™s just reductive. What weā€™re saying is that an entire community is exploiting a system in order to turn a casual game mode into something ultra-competitive.

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and still there is nothing illegal in it
but you still try in any ways to accuse premades

Why would it be illegal? No one is discussing legality here

maybe you dont but there are people that try
and if there is nothing illegal what the problem with premades?
except the ruined experience for pugs but thats pvp you always ruin someones experience

Are you suggesting that breaking rules is committing crimes?

i mean illegal in terms of game rules and not in terms of crime and irl law

The game doesnā€™t allow for you to queue with more than 5 people. Guilds are finding ways around that and griefing pugs in the process.

You know what youā€™re doing isnā€™t right, but your argument is that the ToS isnā€™t clear enough. I hope Blizzard makes it clear

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