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This there has been no confirmation of it happening, and you’re someday could be 10.1 or 15.7 or the week we finally get the rest of the heritage armors, monk unlocks for the last 3 races that can’t be them, the dance studio, or any other number of “working on it” projects.
Then I guess you’ll just have to be happy the last 3 new classes were all melee and tanks, abandon your entitlement, and realize the age-old lesson many of us older folk have learned: you can’t always get what you want.
Personally, I totally see them opening up the race to other classes someday … but I don’t think they’ll do it until after Dragonflight when the Drakthyr are out there in the world. Makes sense that they’d learn other classes once they interact with them the same way Draenei didn’t know Shamanism until the Orcs taught it to them.
Yes yes dracthyr are indeed hot.
Please reread my early post I’m asking for Blizzard to not start a trend of locking races out of roles. I don’t want Evoker Tanks, I want Dracthyr tanks. Ranged has never missed out on being a new race, in fact the only race ever to miss a role completely was pre-cata gnomes who had no healing options.
Which is why I think they’ll open it up eventually but at this point you won’t see them be able to be any class in DF and I can’t see them doing it mid-expansion. Would totally expect them to be able to be other classes in 11.0.
Whats the problem with evokers getting a tank spec? you dont lose your ranged spec…even though its not really that much of a range lol. Does it make you feel exclusive? only ranged players should get cool dragons? And then you dont even want it to be open to other classes either. Name one reason other than your feelings why evokers shouldn’t be tanks or dracthyr shouldn’t be other classes eventually. Im a primarily ranged player, im going to play devastation.they should still be able to tank and it fits.
That isn’t the point.
Dracthyr could be any other class to play as a tank.
But evoker doesn’t need a tank spec
Didn’t you say a reason other than your feeling?
Because it only fits because you feel it fits.
I wouldn’t dislike Evokers having a tank spec, but it doesn’t really solve any issues beyond adding an extra flavour of tanks.
Frara, i don’t know if you understand English but I listed multiple reasons why they should get a tank spec in this thread and every other thread you have tried replying to me on. I don’t really care for spelling it out for you over and over again. And no as of right now Dracthyr cannot become other classes which eventually they should and that makes sense but does not dismiss that they should get a third spec and that third spec should be tank. Please feel free to reference my earlier responses to you for reasons why they should get a tank spec
actually, here one last time…lets see how thick that ignorant skull really is.
REASON # 1 - Players do want it
REASON # 2- It keeps the tanking role equally represented with healers in terms of spec to role ratio
REASON #3- It gives the tanking role lust, further helping group comps specially in m+
REASON #5- It would have a unique and thematically fitting playstyle (the caster tank)
REASON #6- It will prevent the standard of getting a new class every 4-6 years with only 2 specs (IE a half assed class which we allowed by not making more noise when DH only got 2 spec, and yes they should get a 3rd spec as well)
REASON #7- It expands the roles mail wearers can perform, sorry clothies had tanking roles in the past and that does not fit…but an arcane battle mage tank would be an exception
REASON #8- It fits the lore and theme
REASON #9- It is more realistic to add 3 new spells and a talent tree for a tanking spec than to add animations of all the other classes for dracthyr
REASON #10- It will utilize all the dragon aspects to their full extent instead of the only 2 black spells they currently have
REASON #11- ITS A FREAKING COOL CLASS TO BE TANKING ON WITH THEIR BASE TOOLKIT
and there are so many more reasons, but please list 1 good reason why they shouldn’t get a 3rd spec and why that 3rd spec shouldn’t be a tank…other than you wanting a dracthyr other class, because you will get that eventually as blizzard already stated. Now seriously go start your own thread asking for what you do want instead of complaining about something that does not affect you what so ever if implemented. Which btw of all the other classes paladins, monks, priests, death knights, demon hunters, and locks are the least fitting for dracthyr since they either do not use the power of the aspects or do not fit thematically based off lore, that leaves only war and possibly druid for tank options. Sorry no monk dracthyr for you!
Race needs a tank, not the class.
The race needs more classes now.
the race should eventually get more classes which is a secondary congruent solution but does not dismiss evokers getting a tank spec ASWELL
Doesn’t need a tank spec. They’ll probably eventually get other classes.
They also aren’t full dragons, they were humanoid dragon hybrids created by Deathwing when he was Neltharion the Earth Warder to be soldiers.
Too bad. Too sad, the class should not get a tank. Espaicially your dumb idea of one.
Not just my idea, or are you still salty about me making you feel dumb with the whole mitigating while casting post from the other thread?
As much as it fits that any of the 3 new melee classes they added … that can tank … could also thematically have a ranged class.
I don’t think Evokers should have a tank spec. I do think Dracthyr should eventually be open to other classes but I don’t see it happening for DF.
Isn’t about me feeling special cause I’m playing a new class. It’s about being absolutely exhausted with the player base complaining about everything they can’t have in the game … whether it’s solo player crying they can’t get mythic level gear or people still complaining they can’t get Legion transmogs from Mage Tower or melee players whining that, after getting the last 3 new classes in the game purely melee, they also want the next newest class in the game cause “dragons are tanky, mommy! whaaaaaaa! I wannem!”
Them’s mah feels. Like it or not.
Reason #1: players don’t want it.
Reason #2: class to role balance is already off. Heals 5 classes, tanks 6 classes, with both roles on evoker heals 6, tanks 7
Reason #3: doesn’t matter as you would have one class with lust anyway be it on DD or Heal. And bet evoker provides both.
Reason #4: non existent?
Reason #5: it wouldn’t. It is a feeling of you to say “oh man that would be a great caster Tank” there is no such thing. Because you need instant aggro and instant abilities which if they are on Evoker tank it wouldn’t be a “caster Tank” also you have the same Fantasy with Paladin already just Holy spells.
Reason #6: strawman argument. so far only 2 hero classes had this precedent.
Doesn’t mean other “normal” classes will have 3 specs. Monks did have 3 after all.
Reason #7: Mail wearer can get the tinkerer with a tank spec.
Evoker doesn’t need it.
REASON #8: again your feeling. Dragons, big quadrupedal winged creatures are tanks. As far as we know evoker do not posses the same physical abilities as normal dragons.
Reason #9: it is both extra work. And there is a ton of dracthyr animations already. But balancing and even creating an entire new class tree sounds like more work to me.
Reason#10: there are only 2 spells in the talent tree, doesn’t mean evoker has others at its disposal.
Reason #11: again that is your feeling. Same can be said about any other class on dracthyr Wich would be the preferred way to get the race to tank.
Seems like just as you I can argument against all of your reasons…
Time for a stalemate I guess. Because no one will win anyway as blizzard is the only one to decide and they decided against a tank spec.
DK and Monk hard sell for ranged but DH i personally argued they should have gotten a 3rd spec and that third spec should be ranged. And absolutely yes a dragon like class with all the inherit attributes of a tank should tank, im wagering the main reason they didn’t get a tank spec is because of the range babies who cried about mele and tanks being added in even though till now tanks specs are the least represented role in the game. Evokers specifically are as hybrid as it gets…they should perform all roles, and just to keep your feels happy let them cast as tanks so they aren’t “mele”
Nah, I just know that talking to a wall who cannot comprehend the idea of a ranged tank or caster tank cannot work with the game still is salty about people disagreeing with him would be a waste of time to reason with.
So who started this thread and many others like it? why are there fan made trees all over reddit and various forums?
logic is off here, currently with evokers there are more healing specs than tanking ones.
false lock, rogue, war, h priest in a group…no lust there if you want a tank
Oh no you caught me on a typo! sure is a compelling argument.
you can have instant casts as well just like every other caster. also for those who want it to remain a caster, make it Mele based attacks for all I care, but the base caster toolkit can work.
Again not quite, last two classes in a row were 2 spec classes setting a norm for future classes…hero class is such an irrelevant term
LMAO, sure 2 expansions from now, how is that relevant to evoker tanks?
Did i say dragons? what is your fixation with dragons, its about their powers from aspects and the fact that they are dragon like creatures. Still durable and class provides a possible toolkit.
Class balance is always an ongoing thing with every class and spec in the game
is this an argument against because thats the point, add more appropriately themed spells through tanking tree.
Again, how is this an argument against evoker tanks? alas you caught me! I do feel like dragonoid like creature with a class based around the aspect of dragons should tank, but this was was to lure your confirmation bias out
You actually failed to provide one good reasons why they shouldn’t tank, rather you just want to argue the idea, specifically with me