Enjoying exclusive items is normal to MMOs, video games, and humans in general

Your argument is falling apart. So, the number can’t change? The original mint has to be the same to player’s earned.

Then, what if 100,000 super rare mounts where acquired by players. Oh no, 35,000 have been permanently banned. Does that mean, according to your logic, 35,000 additional super rare mounts can be minted for players to acquire?

Thing is. Comparing real world, tangible things, to a virtual, intangible world is just weird and doesn’t mesh.

Down with exclusivity. I have crap I got from over a decade ago, it wouldn’t diminish my accomplishment if someone else were to get them. What is with the online mmo community and their need for elitism and exclusivity?

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Not bad because I know enough people who quit the game because they couldn’t get them. I adore them too but it’s time to share. For a price. The money from these items should be used to renew older models and locations.

I also leave a proof here so you know that I’m actually owning one of the most sought-after items in the game.

https://i.imgur.com/N9eWpli.jpg

Besides, the game is dying by not honoring the invested time people do. Things would also be easier if they could get their desired items after x tries with a 100% chance.

Hey, everyone. I have a Spectral Tiger mount and you can’t get one anymore! Hahaha! And I have the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur that was DISCONTINUED at the end of BfA. Now you can only get it on the BMAH, so you’ll never have it.

That’s right. It’s exclusive to awesome people like me! Too bad you missed out.

Behold. Aren’t you impressed? ENVY ME!

crickets

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I think the game is about to take a turn toward more exclusivity, and these people are here to try to convince us that is what made wow great originally and will return it to greatness.

Ya know what, you’re right. What was I thinking lol. Who needs new challenges with new rewards when we can just rehash content from 2 expansions ago and while we’re at it, just slap the same old rewards in there that some people already have.

^^ If that sounds better than getting new stuff…we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

I’m fine if it was opened up. It just all has to be opened up, to be fair to everyone.

Yes that means I get to go back and solo a scarab lord mount, a hand of a’dal title, a MoP challenge set and an elite gladiator PvP weapon to match it.

This is the way, yes. The developers have ~1000 unused assets (transmog, mounts) which could be used in such content. It could be used to have evergreen content across all expansions.

Some examples:

https://www.warcraftmounts.com/unusedlooksgallery.php

https://www.warcraftmounts.com/unimplementedgallery.php

And these are the mounts alone.

People who don’t think exclusivity adds any value are the loud minority. Many people both irl and in video games tend to always gravitate towards what they perceive to be more valuable through others’ perception. If Invincible were some 20g horse mount on a vendor, barely anybody would ride him. If Keystone Master was acquired by running all normal dungeons, most likely wouldn’t be riding the mount. Take a stroll around Oribos and 80% of ppl are “showing off” what is likely their “rarest” or most valued mount. It’s human nature to want to feel special in some way, and exclusivity does indeed add to that feeling.

Is it selfish? Well yes, wanting to feel like a special exclusive person is selfish. But I didn’t know the WoW playerbase was suddenly standing up for the good of the people all of a sudden. Maybe we should all unsubscribe to stop supporting the abuse of the CCP and Cube Crawling Blizzard. Maybe we should all get off this game and spend our time volunteering to something actually productive. Wait what’s that? You’d rather spend your time sitting on a computer to play a meaningless game instead of getting out there and helping people who need it 24/7? Okay then, maybe it’s alright to be selfish and have those selfish options in a video game that ultimately doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

When 90% of the game isn’t exclusive and 10% is, it isn’t an issue. Nor are people wrong for wanting a SMALL slice of that feeling to be available. It’s okay to be selfish in a dang video game, most of you are and won’t even admit it. You probably pass up on the gearing guy to pickup the overgeared dude for your group. You probably didn’t want to trade that piece of loot someone else needed because “it was yours” etc. Focus on the other 90% if it messes with you that much.

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Well said. We’re all selfish in some capacity, and we should all be allowed to be selfish sometimes.

Plus just about every company or corporation out there has some level of evil anyhow. The only way to really avoid fueling any of them is to live off the grid and grow your own food, but GL if you get hurt or something. It’s just not possible for most folks to live that way.

But yup, I find it ironic that folks here are accusing me and others of being selfish for not wanting to let the MT appearances go, yet they offer nothing of theirs in return. If you’re gonna release one thing, release everything. Only way to be fair.

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Karens are in full force. They want it all!

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I’ll speak to your manager, don’t tempt me.

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Hopefully people demand achievements from legion and they kick the new earners from groups. If I play retail again I will not heal a single new bear form player.

That’s weird.

Because their enjoyment is the thing, your enjoyment is them not having the thing, and no matter how much you rant about how there’s no moral implication to that there’s a reason why you felt the need to defend against one existing.

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I feel like it depends on the context of the actual “items”. Alot of items and achievements have been taken away over the years, but some are just “taken away” and “revamped” or “deleted” but have no real significance as far as “veteran” status goes.

For example, i understand that a black quiraji crystal battle bug, was a one time thing. A one shot item, that only a select amount of players have. But compare that to the gauntlets of divinity from Original scarlet monastery, or the dog catcher gloves from the same instance. Both are incredibly rare to see nowadays, very few off mog options. A couple of look alikes, different colorings. But seriously. Anyone with a brain stem could walk into the instance and loot those items. So stuff like this should still exist in the game, in my op. Or even having a 60 % brewfest ram mount from 2007 in retail. Pretty rare to see, but for the wrong reasons. Again, it was not hard to get. You spent a few days here and there grinding tickets for the ability to buy them.

The amount of work and group dedication to get the black quiraji tank was rediculous tho. And so were the 25 man and 10 man achieves for the black and plagued proto drakes from naxxramas in wrath. That and it was announced these were limited time, one shot events. I often feel like alot of players underestimated how much bullcorn, especially from the dungeons in the cataclysm revamp, wasn’t actually going to return to the loot tables. I mean, i loved the revamp. But the loss of all the og lowbie stuff irritated me to no end. And it wasn’t that hard either.

Countless other examples exist of 1 shot items. Like the competitors tabard and pet, or the dark portal tabard event. But stuff like the gauntlets of divinity, why are they not back on the loot table? We even have those mount runs from the raids before the tier of each expansion ends, a tradition since warlords, where you got a wolf. I got the moose from legion. Stuff like that makes sense. Not like it was faceroll, and you weren’t allowed to do it in the next installment of wow to trivialize it.

That is a major frustration with the revamp as well when it comes to transmog, is alot of the gear that was deleted, people would actually want for transmog. And often times, you have to settle for something that isn’t what you would actually want. I just don’t consider any of the revamped lowbie gear as “veteran status content”.

To be fair, it’s very interesting to see the Karens rationalizing on why they deserve everything everyone else has.

I mean it, they’re running wild lately. We live in the new generation where people feel they deserve everything everyone else has. They deserve to make exactly what others who continued their education make. They deserve to have all accolades they did not earn. You can’t make this stuff up.

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I also feel it is wierd, talking cataclysm again if we are going to include low lvl legendaries as “exclusives” but, to this day, you can still obtain the thunderfury blessed blade of the wind seeker legendary.

If you are a priest, well, that stinks for you. You are not allowed to get anathema or benediction anymore from the og 1-60 content. It is gone. So warriors and rogues litteraly have an edge over mages and priests. Their low lvl moggable legendaries are no longer obtainable. It is ok to screw over some classes, but not others i guess. Rogues are the master class anyways.

Legendaries are tricky. For years, it was up for debate as to whether they were even allowed to be moggable in the first place. Now there are several that have been gone. SImply because blizzard had a perma frost teaser for deleting and revamping old content back in the day. I mean, if some classes have their availble pointless legendaries and gear availble, why not all classes.

You also don’t get to determine how people feel and havung the items available would harm no one either so your own arguments can be used against you.

The only valid point to keeping them locked is blozz said they wouldnt be rereleased. If blizz hadnt said that then there would be no valid argument.

It is gatekeeping and a look at me attitude to withhold things like this. Here is the thing people call these prestige items or say they get to show off or whatever but no one cares that you have it except for you assuming they even notice

Limited time rewards are objectively good.

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They are but according to the Karens, they’re bad and there is no need for them. I disagree… they create harm by depreciating the merit they had (or once had). It’s like a little kid that goes to the playground…

Karen kid: Mommy, I want that shiny toy that kid has!
Mom: No, you just got a new toy.
Karen kid: But he has one! I WANT IT!
Mom: No
Karen kid: But he has one, that means I have to have one too!
Mom: I said no!
Karen kid: AAAAAHHHHHH!!!

But I want teh stuff! >:(

People will always want stuff that other have and they don’t.

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