I started wow on SL release and have been resto shaman the entire time. I love it but wanted to try DPS and chose enhance since I was already mid 270s. My legendary is PLA and I took lashing flame, hot hands, static/wolf, nova, lunge, sundering and elemental spirits. I usually drop wf totem, spirit wolves, flame shock, lunge in, lash, primordial wave, lash, nova. Lightning bolt when stacked for the haste, chain lightning otherwise. I throw in the AOE lightning thing when lash/nova isnt up, I try to throw sundering close to on CD and stormstrike when I’m tapped. I usually end up around like 9-10k overall. I’m slowly getting better but see people so far ahead of me and figure I must be doing something wrong. Can I just lash the same target or should I be tabbing over to new ones each time? Any other advice yall have would be great.
I have a guide on youtube that I think covers all of the basics here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-B31hXZoY. I think the rotation section might be the most helpful.
For your specific questions, you definitely can’t just lava lash the same target all the time. If you do that then you get 1/6th the value from the lashing flames talent that you picked on the first row. You have to actually tab and apply lava lash to every target that has flameshock on it. The exception here is if you’re intentionally focusing on funneling a larger target, but even then you’d be doing a lot more damage than 10k with multiple flameshocks out.
There are a lot of little things that are really obvious once you show someone a video or a log so I think that’s the only real way to get good feedback. I also have a viewer key where a lot of those things came up within a few minutes of starting the key.
No. You should take Elemental Assault instead. Fire Nova looks good on paper, but it underperforms in practice.
Ah, I see the problem now. You’re Necrolord.
Necrolord is good for Ele and Resto, but Night Fae (and specifically with Dreamweaver) is where you want to be for Enhance.
Necrolord isn’t bad for Enhance, that ceiling you’re hitting:
is because of you using Necrolord.
Give Night Fae a try, dump Nove for Ele Assault and get yourself both Doom Winds and Witch Doctor (I find them both useful in different situations), and let us know how that feels for you.
Why? Wouldn’t venth be better. The channeled ability for Night Fae doesn’t make since for Enhancement. Not trying to troll or be rude I am really interested as to why Night Fae is better.
It was, but they buffed the NF ability to a point where it actually outperforms Venth now.
Don’t get me wrong, I started this xpac as Venth and I LOVE Chain Harvest, but the NF ability is just better, even though it can be hard to land when things start moving around.
The reason is all about having your Feral Spirits active. What you normally do is pop your FS, then drop Fae Transfusion on your target(s). This reduces the CD on FS by 10 seconds a tick, basically giving you a chance to have two sets of FS out at once. Add in Witch Doctor as your leggo, and you’re just spamming FS on extended fights.
Check out the WoWHead page for Enhance. There’s a lot of good info there:
Ahh I see yea. Now I can understand I know I was looking at wowhead and they had said that Night Fae was best ST option while Necro and Venth are dealers choice for aoe. Like you I have been venth from the start of the expansion and I feel its stronger for how I play but if you look at my talents I am using Forceful winds and basically wf centric player.
Yeah, I did that for a while too, and had Doom Winds as my leggo but it just wasn’t performing as well as I’ve seen.
Once I switched to basically what the OP has for talents (except I use Ele Assualt instead of Nova) and got Witch Doctor, I’m basically running FS constantly, most times getting two sets out at once.
I am shocked blizz hasn’t nerfed the NF ability. Thats why they nerfed FS is because they did not want us to be a pet class so I am shocked they have allowed this to stay.
Thank you so much, this is exactly the build I was hoping to get. As far as only getting 10k, I think a lot of the issue is basically every group has destro or surv. Packs die so fast when someone’s doing 20-40k that unless its a bigger group I have time for very few lava lashes in a 15ish group. I appreciate the video, that helps a ton.
I don’t think they really consider FS to be “pets” like that. Besides, we aren’t the only class with an ability like that anyway, and they even gave us a talent to buff them if we take it. Considering we don’t use our totems as much as we used to do, they’ve basically just “replaced” totems with Spirits.
They used to FS used to see FS as pets, FS had a leap that would stun the target then when they did dmg they would heal you for 100% of the damage they did. And they used to do a lot of damage I know in pvp I went from 20% to full from popping them between a rogue stun that I was able to kill the rogue most of it was from FS.
Then they removed a lot of FS damage, then they removed the stun and healing and they became as to what we have now. And the nerfs to FS was quoted as we do not want Enhancement to be a pet based spec.
Very off topic but I tried pulling up the RIO website in order to check gear of the top players, and for some reason whenever I hover their gear it no longer shows the tool tip that tells you which gear they use. Has anyone ran into this?
I can see the top players by spec and if you click on each one it shows their gear.
Not sure what page you are looking at that isn’t working but I can see what the top players are using individually.
I should add, that I usually go by WarcraftLogs myself.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/29#boss=2512&class=Shaman&spec=Enhancement
I wanna push back a little against some of the advice I’ve seen here. I actually think your original build is optimal for m+. If you check mythic subcreation (https: //mplus. subcreation .net /enhancement-shaman. html [I added spaces so the link would break and I could post here, just remove to check it out]), which records +18-29 keys, 86% are running necro and almost 90% PLA - only ~8% run WDWB. It provides basically no AoE damage; the majority of damage in m+ is on trash so you generally want to maximize your AoE potential.
Thanks to flame shock spread this tier, nova is effectively uncapped AoE and will do a ton of damage. It’s normally my 3rd damage overall behind flame shock and lava lash. I would try to get it out a little sooner; after you spread flame shock with lava lash, immediately nova. If you’re at 5+ maelstrom stacks on pull, just primordial wave first instead of flame shock. Be sure you’re tab targeting to get the most out of lashing flames, you’ll lose out on a lot of damage otherwise.
One big issue you might be having is your Mastery is a bit low. The PLA build relies on Mastery - you want to stack as much as possible. And I suspect the build will be smoother with higher haste levels as well (ideally, +30% haste and +60% mastery).
The main benefit of the PLA+necro build is it’s completely independent of cds. You can do big damage on basically any pull size. You won’t burst as high as other specs - so if you’re running with a destro lock or a surv hunter, don’t expect to beat them in overall. Our strength is in funnel and priority damage. But you can keep up with the PLA+necro; I think you’ll struggle to keep up with a NF+WDWB build. I suspect more people in the +18s and above range would be running it if it were superior.
Jhogar is definitely right. Necrolord is the best covenant in pretty much any case in mythic plus. You didn’t specify raid vs mythic+ in the original post but you do mention AOE so I assume its m+. Night Fae and Elemental Assault are defintely worse than Necro with Fire Nova in M+. I have no idea why Beaupeep is giving you that advice. Most Shaman in M+ are running PLA and Primordial Wave is definitely an amazing ability.
he might need help on which addons to use. Any recommendations?
I appreciate the answer a lot. I watched the video Boltz made and that’s exactly what I was looking to do, and it helped a ton to actually see it done well and see where I can improve. As far as mastery goes, my main spec is resto so almost all my gear is crit/vers stacked. I’ve been opening GV and running keys with enhancement loot spec so hopefully that will help get better gear soon. I think the majority of my issue is both not tabbing to a new target to lash, and just being new/kinda freezing up and unsure what to do next. Yalls advice has really helped a ton, thank you.
Pretty nice video dude!
Yeah, great video. Do you ever stream?
So Jhogar is correct, and with PLA our stats are haste>Mast>others (I would sim before making significant swaps). Necrolord is currently best in M+ in most scenarios. The playstyle I would suggest before you start getting to fire nova is maximizing that flame shock spread with LL (at least 5 targets if available) into Primordial wave and the LB. You should have 50% haste going into trash and then you can get to fire nova, with a super low CD due to the high haste. For bosses, if you dont have mongo survival hunters. You should FS, LL spread onto the relics and then PW into LB to get 40% haste. This affords you having more mastery for FS and LL damage. Regarding the key to high trash damage, u need a good plater profile or name plate addon so that you can effectively “tab” lashing flames debuff multiple enemies. I can’t speak to Tyrannical weeks where other big AOE classes destroy trash, we just cant compete there.