Enemy health scaling is out of control

[Illidonkey-malganis]

You mean the quest where your two followers solo everything for you?

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Phenomenon-hydraxis

Scaling has sucked from the moment it was introduced, and will continue to suck.

It literally invalidates any character progression.

I agree. That’s why it’s a good thing there is no scaling based off ilvl.

@Qaccy-baelgun

But in the absence of that, how much HP do level 80 rares have for your character?

I haven’t checked, the only ones I know for sure are the 80 rare elites, which have had the same ~7.9 mil HP they had as a 530ilvl 70 as a 580 ilvl 80. I do know various elites have different HPs amounts, but they aren’t scaling from what I’ve seen.

[Phenomenon-hydraxis]

Except, there is. They put, for the first time ever, iLvl scaling against the leveling experience this very week for this expansion.

And iLvl scaling at max level has existed since Legion for “end game”.

[Fervent-the-venture-co]

Don’t know why they had to change it, it was fine before. Leveling isn’t supposed to be difficult in wow.

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Phenomenon-hydraxis

They put, for the first time ever, iLvl scaling against the leveling experience this very week for this expansion.

They literally just added that to make it so it’s not as face roll for geared 70s.

@Phenomenon-hydraxis

And iLvl scaling at max level has existed since Legion for “end game”.

Did not exist in legion. Ilvl scaling was first used in BfA but there was a big backlash so it wasn’t in SL, DF, or TWW.

[Illidonkey-malganis]

And it’s not difficult now after the changes

[Qaccy-baelgun (Qaccy)]

@Valshaw-stormrage

I haven’t checked, the only ones I know for sure are the 80 rare elites, which have had the same ~7.9 mil HP they had as a 530ilvl 70 as a 580 ilvl 80.

7.9 sounds like it’s already pretty different from what I’ve seen. That’s almost a 500k increase over where I’m at!

But here ya go, here’s a visual demonstration. I went ahead and deleted my boots, dropping my ilvl to 534:

Here’s the same rare after restoring my boots, bringing my ilvl back to 574:

The HP increase occurred immediately after I reclaimed them from the mailbox!

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Qaccy-baelgun

But here ya go, here’s a visual demonstration

Interesting, so there is scaling. That sucks, but it’s at a level so low as to not be impactful to any degree.

[Erfal-the-scryers]

@Valshaw-stormrage

People just grasping at straws

This is why it’s pointless to try to address problems here. Too many people think it ain’t happening because it ain’t happening to them.

EDIT:

Maybe with some of the game designers, too…

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Erfal-the-scryers

Too many people think it ain’t happening because it ain’t happening to them.

Well it seems there is scaling after all (see above post), but it’s so little as to be functionallly nonexistent.

[Erfal-the-scryers]

@Valshaw-stormrage

but it’s so little as to be functionallly nonexistent.

You mean in your experience? I can tell you that the state of open world content FOR ME is such taht it’s no longer fun. Is your ilvl over 550?

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Erfal-the-scryers

You mean in your experience?

Look at the above post. An elites hp went up by 1% but they had 20 more ilvl. It’s functionally nonexistent since that 20 ilvl is typically about a 20-25% increase in damage for the player while the mob only gained 1% more hp.

[Sympathetik-zuljin]

They’re wrong. Bliz already confirmed that scaling from 78-80 is completely unchanged from before the tuning, people are just losing their minds over nothing.

[Erfal-the-scryers]

@Valshaw-stormrage

ook at the above post

Frankly, I don’t care what the numbers are, or why it is the way it is. it’s not fun for me, and it appears I’m not the only one.

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Erfal-the-scryers

Frankly, I don’t care what the numbers are, or why it is the way it is.

Look, I don’t like scaling either. But since it’s functionality nonexistent at max level then it’s fine.

[Erfal-the-scryers]

@Valshaw-stormrage

nonexistent at max level then it’s fine.

You mean it’s not for you…

Wahtever the reason, questing and killing open world mobs is not fun. Your ilvl again?

[Valshaw-stormrage (Valshaw)]

@Erfal-the-scryers

You mean it’s not for you…

…If you’re not going to read, why are you here? Look up, there’s a guy posting proof that both
A. Scaling happens
B. The number change is tiny

[Kazaraz-azshara]

That was not happening at all for me. I was getting hit twice before I even got a heal or a sunfire off.

[Starwolf-defias-pillager]

TLDR: someone said that enemies scale to ilvl all the way up to a point until you get epics to crush them

[Késtrel-thrall]

@Lynaith-moon-guard

I’d rather wait until the pre-patch for the next expansion to go back and clear the current one.

I do the same! I dabble in current expansion content, get tired of having to fight for my life to walk ten feet for the mobs to respawn behind me 5 seconds later, or wait for timegate after timegate to continue a campaign quest or a faction grind. Once it’s trivial, and most artificial padding is gone it makes these things a heck of a lot more fun to do.

I have two alts in korthia trying for the cosmetics, one in legion farming the paragon caches, one doing horrific visions and one finishing the Kyrian campaign. I’m sure I’ll be back there soon once I get my first toon to 80 and park her in Dwarftown.