Your whole reply is a meme and the truth hurts. I’m sorry I’m not going to pansy foot around your precious feelings.
There are rares in retail? They respawn far too fast to be considered rare.
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I mean what if? It won’t bug me in any way what so ever. I actually have a priest I’m leveling in Classic, she’s about 30ish now. I am bouncing back and forth, but you also don’t see me being a complete troll in the forums to people that enjoy playing one or the other. Classic is it’s own thing and Retail is it’s own thing. Let it go, let it gooooo.
So what if more people are playing? That means they are doing what they love. How will this bug me or anything I’m doing in either game. It won’t. So what is your point here?
I’m a dofer. I do fer myself. I don’t depend on everyone else to make either game fun for me. Matter of fact, I play Final Fantasy too. Almost have a White mage capped there. What does that mean? oO How does that effect anyythingggg. What if they have more subs than Classic and Retail put together. What happens then? I mean we could do this crap logic all day long friend, how does it bug you and your gameplay?
Edited to add: How are you gonna know what is what and who is playing what, is Blizz releasing numbers to you? I thought so. I mean there are already some Classic servers getting free xfers cause the realms are dead (or at least that was my understanding, regardless it don’t bug me and I don’t care because I play how I want), so I’m not so sure what you are going for.
As someone who 40 person raided in Vanilla, hating it with a passion, I enjoy that you can do things in retail without a global village.
For example, I finally got
Feelings like that are things I never had in Vanilla, because EVERYTHING was tied to doing stuff with other people. Then you only got what they allowed you to get, or you had the DKP to buy it (which seemed more “mercenary” to me, rather than “pals!”)
During Legion, my bored Hunter (at some content gate/timegate, or something), tried mount collecting again. we FINALLY got Onyxia’s reins/whatever. Upon getting it, I remembered something else. I remembered those early Vanilla raids of Onyxia, where you’d have 40 people and if that mount ever did drop one person would get it.
People are not at the point in Classic yet, where that becomes an issue. Some are, who exploited or what not, but you won’t see the major complaint posts until we are farther into Classic.
I’m also having fun in Classic, currently with a 17 Ne Hunter (recreation of my retail Hunter, who is 120 and was my first alt in Vanilla, when my Holy Priest was 60 and stagnating in a raiding guild, without being able to raid on that schedule anymore.)
Part of the reason I’m having fun in Classic Vanilla is that I know EXACTLY what it was; I won’t have the let down, which I had in retail Vanilla. You realize that leveling up the world seemed like magic, with so much promise. Then you realized there was only one, dumb thing at the end of it. So I’ll be doing the other dumb thing, being 60 around phase 3/4 and doing battlegrounds for the rare and epic set! I never did THAT in Vanilla, not getting into them until BC when I did them for the Season 1 arena set from Battleground honor (fantastic set, for my hunter back then, for both PVP and PVE, as well as not being fully replaced until 7 levels of soloing into Wrath.)
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I like them both. They both bring something dif tonthe table as far as gaming experience goes and i dont see how thats a bad thing. This whole one or the other debate is pointless.
Its like discussing music, both are a matter of taste and individual preferences.
My observation is this. I think classic was more of a hybrid old school rpg/mmo.
Retail leans more to mmo
I never said retail is better than classic, or classic is better than retail. I think the OP is right. I just like to make snarky comments as counter points.
What happens if classic is drawing in more players than retail? Changes will be made to get them to retail. They will always chase the $$$. Why do you think Diablo Immortal exists? If it’s still profitable to keep making content for WoW they will try to draw in the largest player base no one but blizz know which is larger but we’ll see in the coming year. It’s going to be very interesting.
I never get exited for a rare in retail anymore because they have just become a regular mob that drops a blue piece everytime and is always up to kill.
The Devs have screwed up when it comes to PvE and put so much focus on high endgame which so few people play. Why do mythic raids exist when barely anyone completes them?
Mythic + is pretty much the only new system from any past expansion that has added a way to replay content at more challenging difficulties. The reward structure and speed running isn’t my game but the idea of unlimited scaling dungeons was brilliant.
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This is because end game is more important than leveling this has always been the case.
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Fair enough.
As I said, I’m playing both. Classic was a slow start for me, I’m finally getting to a place where I might see it being rewarding but I’m definitely not ditching out on Retail. Every Xpac there are issues with it no matter what and no one is ever going to be happy, no matter what.
I think it’s nice that we have a way to bounce back and forth when things just don’t feel fun or rewarding. I have a few games I find enjoyment in and try not to put all my eggs in one basket.
Most of the changes I have just sucked up and dealt with and hope sooner or later they figure it out and get it right. However this great divide in the community is a joke and beyond ridiculous and I have never understood why people care so much what everyone else is doing and don’t just focus on themselves.
Have you been on GD long? The last two weeks have been inundated with classic vs Retail “discussions” that nobody really cares about. I play both versions, they’re separate games. Trying to compare or point out differences or whatever is just useless typing.
Toxic? There’s zero toxicity in my post. My point was to stop yakking and just go play.
As you should, instead of dissecting posts you didn’t even read correctly.
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You talk about how 100% of us will level while ignoring that a large chunk of people will level as quickly as possible. So we hit the next level cap within a week of the expansion, and then have to have something to do for the next two years.
And your focus seems to be entirely on raiding, as if that’s the sole content available at the level cap.
And? There are four difficulty levels. How many people have cleared EP on LFR/Normal/Heroic in addition to Mythic?
You’re keeping your argument in an extremely narrow lane, where you’ve lost sight of the forest for the trees. There’s a lot more to the endgame than just raiding, and there’s more to raiding than just Mythic difficulty.
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Your title’s broken.
It’s not Classic vs Retail, it should be Classic AND Retail.
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I would quit the game. I hate zone scaling and if I had to level up in for more than a week I would find another game.
I have played a lot of classic since it was released but they are two separate games and they appeal to a different audience than the current version. Trying to make some hybrid version between the two will likely not satisfy either and it would be foolhardy to attempt it.
Those of us who’ve been here since vanilla play all iteration of this game as part of Playing the game. We have our own reasons why whatever we do appeals to us and it’s our own thing.
Nobody is angry at the other fans just for playing the other version of the game. Whoever is giving you that impression is just an overall angry troll. The majority of us Just Play The Game.
This game has Always been about endgame, since it was created. The game began at 60. But there were tons of us who were just dabbling with endgame and had fun anyway. We weren’t world ranked guilds, we didn’t even succeed in killing Rag after several attempts. We didn’t care, we had fun.
Blizzard didn’t force the endgame focus - the players did. They rushed to max and beat on the final raids as soon as they could. Blizzard will probably be happier if everyone took 6 months to 60 like I did in vanilla, prolonging the subscription and wandering around in the epic worlds they created. I’m still here because the endgame is Not their only focus - of course the raiding is a huge part of their game dev and design. But they need the peons and casuals like me to do all the things and succeed/fail-try-again-cuz-stubborn.
I want new things to do in this game and Blizzard provides that with patches and xpacs. Classic is the new thing right now, never mind that I started in vanilla - was too long ago, forgot most of it (til I play classic and groan at the crap that was frustrating back then). It’s all fun. Lousy memory works well in this situation. (omg I forgot to get the FP in TB…gotta re-run the entire route Again! - stuff like that.)
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It’s not really a US vs Them.
Its Retail is legit trash and classic is okay, much better than retail.
Most of us would prefer BC honestly.
The devs for whatever reason have legitimately ignored the pvp crowd 100% in retail and refuse to respond to anything regarding it.
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Massive over simplification that leaves out key details.
They created a stock set of servers. Those servers where becoming massively overloaded, so they started to make new servers for people to go to. People didn’t want to go to them because they didn’t want to leave their friends. Thus free transfers.
They aren’t doing free transfers because realms are dead, they are doing them because Classic is far more popular than anticipated so they are trying to get people to move.
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I really honestly don’t care. Honestly. I don’t. 
I do what I like and don’t give a rip what anyone else is doing. Classic and Retail are 2 different things and should be treated as such. No amount of posts on this forums is going to change that.
As I said () or at least that was my understanding and also what you didn’t quote, do not care. I feel like responding to you at this point gives you more ammo. Just play the game and do what you like.
Wishing you much fun and the best.
My thoughts are that all of these “Classic vs Retail Thought” threads should be in a single topic. It is bordering on SPAM because people think their thoughts are more important than others and can’t use the existing topics.
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Couldn’t agree more.
There are places besides Nazjatar.I’ve been trying for Voidtalon forever.
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I think people are missing the most interesting part of the discussion the OP was trying to have.
Personally, I’ve really been enjoying Classic, but I’m also keenly aware of many ways in which retail is superior. I’m glad that I can play both with the same subscription.
Leveling is a lot more fun in Classic. The reason is that the leveling experience mattered then. Getting a green piece of gear from a quest could be a meaningful upgrade. You got new talent points at each level and you really felt the extra power of new ranks of abilities. New levels felt meaningful.
Leveling in retail is a means to an end only. It is an annoyance to get through rather than a journey to enjoy. It’s all about getting to the end game content of your choice.
The thing is, both of those things are valid depending on your personal preferences, but it certainly is instructive to look at how and why the leveling experience became so unenjoyable.
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