True in the traditional sense. But they do have a ton of people doing instanced pvp.
And large scale pvp events have happened on their Stormwind shard in the past.
Come do that on my shards. Offer still stands fam.
For sure. Instanced PvP is more popular too than WPvP.
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At this point I don’t even care if war mode stays, just give us a pvp server we can join. For people who want it.
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Sure, and split up the already small WPvP player base as is. Great idea man. 
What will be the point of adding a PvP server into retail when everything is cross realm and has sharding? You guys want a “sense of community” but you can’t achieve that when you can just invite other players into your shard.
And say you do disable all forms of cross realm and sharding, those on PvP servers can’t even play with their cross realm friends. You either make a new character on that server or server transfer. That alone is splitting WPvP, because you’ll have War Mode WPvP and now PvP server WPvP that can’t interact with one another. You’re also leaving faction balance in Blizzards hands, good luck with that.
It wouldn’t work anymore in today’s game. It worked once again in Classic because it was a fresh start and Blizzard began paying extra attention to faction imbalance. It stopped working in retail after WotLK when they no longer cared about faction imbalance and let it get to the extremes we had by Legion. They attempted to fix it by adding CRZ in MoP, but instead they saw people were leaving PvP servers through CRZ. 
War Mode is by no means a perfect system, that much I’ll agree on, but PvP servers literally can’t exist in today’s game. Fix War Mode, that’s all.
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lol… it’s funny to read all these responses you type out. Let’s see another one
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Glad I could make your day! X)
But on a serious note, I am open to debate. I love it, seriously. Atleast try to refute some of my points sheesh.
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I foresee it. If they came out with one or two like emerald dream as new pvp servers no war mode… they’d get flooded with players. But we also need new things for wpvp. World assaults or other things mentioned.
They won’t.
Honestly feels like they’re actively sabotaging what is left more than anything.
Past few weeks Sparks quests zones don’t have pvp quests in them… Which is where everyone was going to fight for them.
Map is busted as hell, shows your raid in Hallowfall.
Since Tuesday crates have been not showing for some people on map as well.
And phasing has started moving you around while in same zone…
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Is it still set up where you constantly have to flip war mode on and off for different things? Like if you que for a dungeon and get paired with people out of war mode. For summons and stuff, I remember it being like that when I tried it. Go back to capital, turn war mode off, go back after turn it back on… turn it off… on later
Nah if you queue for a dungeon in War Mode you’re fine. It disables your PvP flag while in PvE instances so you can still be healed and what not by players with it off.
You can be summoned by a player in WM on or off, but you wouldn’t be able to help summon at the meeting stone (unless you’re helping someone who’s also opted into WM and such)
You can turn War Mode off at any rested area, but you need to go to Dornogal, Valdrakken, Orgrimmar, or Stormwind to turn it back on.
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That’s how I think about yall commenting. “I don’t like the idea of a pvp server so I don’t anyone to have one wahhh” that’s how it sounds lol
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Personally, I just think about how it would work logistically. I’m of the belief that ever since they added War Mode, they cannot ever go back to PvP servers because it wouldn’t make any sense for the reasons I already said above.
Instead of just “I want PvP servers” I want to hear from people how Blizzard could realistically make it work with what we have in the game.
Critical thinking skills, you know?
I mean youve made it pretty clear you havent played retail or been in War Mode at all, or if at all very very little, yet you keep making suggestions about it. So I just kind of ignore you tbh.
If you want old PvP servers then stay in SOD. PvP servers aren’t coming back and it’s time to move on.
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I will 100% agree with you on this. Everything in this post you’re right. Its very frustrating right now. I wont lie, I’ve not been on as much due to phasing issues, how janky things are, all the DANG BOTS and boosters, cheaters. I know I give you a hard time but blizz is dropping the ball hardddddd right now. Its effecting everyone.
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War mode is honestly kinda lame, pvp servers were more fun.
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warmode was introduced to solve pvp server balance issue. seems many people forgot.
Before warmode, some servers were 90% horde, or 90% alliance, never 50 -to-50. So wpvp were dead, I was horde in a 90% alliance server, I couldn’t even do world quest.
Warmode move imbalance issue away into warmode server, but now the imbalance issue just came back again. Don’t know if my warmode server and your server same. In my warmode server, Alliance has become 90% again.
So I 'd say, warmode failed.
Bliz lacks effective way to solve population balance issue. Now Alliance can do mercs queue in bg, while horde can’t (in my server). Isn’t this making Alliance more appealing?
I had an idea long time ago regarding to the population imbalance, which is give minority faction big buff in loot/gold/drops. If say Horde to Alliance is 4 to 1, then let Alliance have 4 times more or 4x (a percentage) more awards. Then people will flood to Alliance, the more go to alliance, the less the buff is till balanced, no buff on both side. Dynamic adjusting to encourage people to go smaller faction.
and/or…mercs option open to whole world, not just pvp.
Anyway, population imbalance is the main wpvp killer and it requires a dynamic mechanism to maintain balance. so warmode worked in the beginning, but gradually failed.
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I was just thinking this too. Every crate drop is just instant alliance with maybe one or two hero horde members trying. If not reward increase maybe damage increase like a spartan buff. The more out numbered during a crate fight the stronger the individual becomes. You can become a mini world boss during crate fights lol.
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other than award buff, maybe dps buff also works. for example, if Horde is constantly 1:4 to Alliance, then let Horde player temperaily be able to fight 4 at the same time in the open world until population balance restored. The key is any mechanism must be dynamic, or AI stuff if using a more popular term.
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