End the war on solo gameplay in WoW

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Xulivan-proudmoore

The OP who is a troll has already posted in numerous threads demanding mythic ilvl gear at the rate of several pieces per week via matchmaking content, Torghast, and world quests.

I think OP is actually just terrible at the game, and thinks that better gear is required for them to complete trivial content.

[Xulivan-proudmoore]

@Ripworldbuff-grobbulus

upgradable when each new tier is released to make craft relevant (but not require Raid Mats to upgrade). There would be no Set gear it would be just stat gear, and Mythic/Rank offer Set gear and more gear that synergizes

So you are more in favor of a less steep vertical progression, but still a game revolving around vertical progression.

I don’t think I’ve seen a better compromise. I’m not exactly in favor of it, but I don’t hate it either.

[Xulivan-proudmoore]

The OP being good or bad at WoW is irrelevant. Invalidating various tiers of raid/M+ difficulty just because they refuse to engage in that content is what I’m concerned with.

[Verminard-scarlet-crusade]

@Lucish-moon-guard

It’s an MMORPG bro, game isn’t meant to be played solo

Wrong dude, its why many of us left EQ to come to WoW.

MMORPG :

1. an online role-playing video game in which a very large number of people participate simultaneously.

No forced grouping definition.

See original box - play solo or enlist fellow heroes

[Xulivan-proudmoore]

You can post box art all you want. You’re conveniently leaving out the part where it doesn’t say “you can and should get the best gear playing by yourself.”

Also the manual that came with that box mentioned druids using spears as weapons, and Tauren using plainsrunning instead of mounting.

So whatever.

[Verminard-scarlet-crusade]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

I think OP is actually just terrible at the game, and thinks that better gear is required for them to complete trivial content

Well, I think the people who suck at the game need gear more than the Godlike among us.

If they really are God’s their skill would allow them to carry raids in Blues (like the greats back in Wrath did).

Hey lets do that! Instead of trying to make the fights harder, just make the higher tiers be done in lower ilevel. You get a the best title if you can do it naked

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Verminard-scarlet-crusade

If they really are God’s their skill would allow them to carry raids in Blues (like the greats back in Wrath did).

You mean the most undertuned raid in the game’s history that was also a re-hash, Naxx 25?

[Verminard-scarlet-crusade]

@Xulivan-proudmoore

You can post box art all you want. You’re conveniently leaving out the part where it doesn’t say “you can and should get the best gear playing by yourself.”

I was responding to a person who said this is an MMO and that means you HAVE TO play as a group.

Did you ever play an MMORPG that required grouping for most of it? I have and occasionally still do.

There is a reason so many of us (including the original devs) came here - the devs took the best part of those other games and make a Hello Kitty Version.

Now kids who have never played the original hardcore versions want WoW to be the game it tried to be the opposite of

[Snozh-malganis]

@Ripworldbuff-grobbulus

I’d be ok with it, but I’m also ok with out it

I’m not ok with it at the slightest.

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@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

You mean the most undertuned raid in the game’s history that was also a re-hash, Naxx 25

You mean all of Wrath, not just Naxx?

[Xulivan-proudmoore]

Well clearly it’s a stupid thing to suggest that the entirety of WoW be played grouped. The game isn’t designed that way, most especially the leveling and catching up process.

However.

The best gear should require group content. Not matchmaking content. Actual instanced, group content.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

Yeah, cause you could totally do 25 yogg-0 or 25 heroic Lich King in blues.

[Wínter-twisting-nether]

I’m pretty happy with where solo play is at. Compared to early expansions loot and ability to gear solo is practically a daily pinata.

Been considering getting into more group stuff just for kicks rather than gear which is nice.

Then again I’m also a filthy casual LFR warrior now so I guess ego takes a hit

[Verminard-scarlet-crusade]

@Xulivan-proudmoore

The best gear should require group content. Not matchmaking content. Actual instanced, group content.

The problem is many on here are making a strawman saying WQ players want the equivalent to Mythic raid gear which isn’t true.

What people miss is with the world scaling that makes the world less than trivial for all raiders, makes the world less than trivial for people who only do WQ. WQ people see their character progression go down or even stop.

I handle it fine, I just go to older content when I want to play a Diablo style game where I can smash things with little risk. I LOVE that in Classic, I can go to older content and just smash things.

I would prefer to be abe to gear up so I can play in current zones without having to treat it like a dungeon or raid

[Verminard-scarlet-crusade]

@Wínter-twisting-nether

I’m pretty happy with where solo play is at. Compared to early expansions loot and ability to gear solo is practically a daily pinata.

I have to admit, the transmogs from the covenants were one of the best thing Blizz has ever done

Edit - even the ilevel gear and upgrades. Just a lil slow for me

[Rougaroux-thrall]

So the MMO genre cant adapt or evolve to include solo gameplay?

[Xulivan-proudmoore]

@Verminard-scarlet-crusade

The problem is many on here are making a strawman saying WQ players want the equivalent to Mythic raid gear which isn’t true.

Yes it is. The OP has directly called for it in multiple threads. The answer is that it shouldn’t be the way the OP wants it.

@Verminard-scarlet-crusade

WQ people see their character progression go down or even stop

Everyone has an end point in their progression. Silly argument.

@Verminard-scarlet-crusade

I would prefer to be abe to gear up so I can play in current zones without having to treat it like a dungeon or raid

You can’t be serious. With the gear you get in ZM and the high amount of people out there mob and quest sharing. Idk my warrior is full 226 and has absolutely no problems anywhere openworld.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Verminard-scarlet-crusade

The problem is many on here are making a strawman saying WQ players want the equivalent to Mythic raid gear which isn’t true

It’s not a straw man. There are players that are asking for bis gear. No one is saying all of them are.

[Verminard-scarlet-crusade]

@Xulivan-proudmoore

Yes it is. The OP has directly called for it in multiple threads.

@Eleusia-myzrael

No, we don’t expect max iLvl Mythic BiS gear mailed to us just for logging in.
No, you won’t be forced to do any content that you don’t want to do, unless you want gear downgrades for some reason.
No, your efforts won’t be devalued by ours, because you will still have your BiS gear and exclusive cosmetics such as equipment appearances, titles, achievements, feats of strength, or mounts.
Yes, we realize that this is a multi-player game, and we may even enjoy doing many things with our friends, but no, we do not want to do raids, Mythic dungeons, or rated PvP together or with you.
Yes, we do need more powerful gear to solo rares and mass-pull mobs in this expansion, and to complete legacy content in past expansions.
Yes, we deserve to experience power progression just as much as you do in your content.
Yes, WoW’s population is declining, and it is getting harder to justify the majority of the game’s development expenses going into activities that fewer and fewer players are engaging in (both in terms of absolute and relative numbers). End the war on solo gameplay, so that WoW can go back to being WoW.

I coipied the whole thing but I will re-copy the one part in case you missed it

@Eleusia-myzrael

No, we don’t expect max iLvl Mythic BiS gear mailed to us just for logging in.

[Xulivan-proudmoore]

Check the post history there’s another thread In currently responding in by the OP that wants mythic ilvl gear for torghast and matchmaking content.

It’s bad for the game. No.