End of the High Elf Debate

The fact you actually think that is incredibly telling

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What does it tell you?

It tells me you haven’t played horde, don’t understand nuance, and surely don’t know of or understand the silver covenant atrocities
But y’know, horde civilian lives mean less, right?

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Well you are wrong, i have 6 lvl 120 horde toons.

This doesn’t mean anything because there is no world in which i can’t describe what i said about the Horde in GREAT detail that would be “nuance”.

Reminds me of that time Anduin tried to say something to Saurfang about things that happened 20 years ago and compare the Alliance to the Horde and Saurfang slapped him in the face and let him know how stupid he was.

Horde have Civilians?

Except for again, this single text line is the only time she is claimed to be an exile.
At no point in any of WoWs history was any group but quel lithien exiled.
For vereesa to be an exile means alleria, auric, and several other high elves who were never around for the schism would be high elves as well. It also directly contradicts what occurs in wotlk where high elves were able to enter silvermoon, and is directly contradocted by the nightborne recruitement where. Lorthemar states all children of wuel thalas is welcome.

But hey, helfers have that habit of sticking to one tiny adpect and ig mlm oring it all.
“Blood elves didnt get blue eyes, vereesas eyes are differentl!”

Funny stuff

And it has been so the entire time. The ‘debate’ was dead soon as blood elves were added to the Horde in BC. Then it was just reinforced over time.

There’s no debate. If you want to play a high elf and have that fantasy then the Horde is where you do it.

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Funny you say that considering you said this:

Now as for -

So, the actions of the Orcs deem the rest of the Horde races in the basket regardless of them not being a part of them? And also deems any atrocity enacted upon the Horde to be deserved, and without emotion? Wow, you’re the very thing you hate. lol

Gonna go on a limb and state arguing with you would be pointless as you are stuck in your own ways, crazed with bloodthirst and hatred.

Regardless, Blood Elves is merely a term the High Elves changed their people’s name towards to honour the sacrifice of their kin.

90% + of the remaining Quel’Dorei / Sin’Dorei are Horde. Lorewise there’s very little Quel’Dorei that are Alliance. Silver Covenant isn’t a race, it’s a faction within the race that already exists as stated earlier. It would be like me stating "Give us Defias Brotherhood for the Horde! They’re totally different!"

Simply take a deep breath. Relax, and as for this futile argument; head the heavy words of N’Zoth to Queen Azshara — "Let go …"

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I think Blizzard dug it’s heels in too far on this topic. They chose to die on this Hill they made. A Hill that did not need to be. And now they are doomed to never hear the end of it. Even after they forfeit and give us everything we asked for they still will not hear the end of it for creating that needless hill to begin with.

And every time they complain about it I will remind them, that THEY made this lore. They put the high elfs there for us to drool over and dream about. They are the one’s who added new races into the game and made the CHOICE to negate the obvious ones such as high elfs and orge’s and they are the ones who now have to listen to us.

Cause kids who stare at ice cream all day will eventually want to eat it!

Why is it funny? I get to see both sides stories but i am not faction swapping my Alliance toons to Horde…i am actually faction swapping some of my last Horde toons to Alliance.

In what world was Theramore the “actions of the Orcs”…you sound like you suddenly forgot the warchief at the time was not the only one to go along with or participate in the destruction of Theramore.

Do you suddenly pick and choose when you are part of the Horde? I bet you think just because Sylvanas left that no other Horde should be punished not just for Teldrassil…but for being a party to your OWN TROOPS being blighted at UC.

These are your words not mine.

Good try…but no.

There is a difference between justice and bloodthirst. My wanting revenge for all of the slaughtered innocents does mean i want The Horde dismantled and punished and every last Horde that took part in the 3 events i outlined i would surely wipe from the face of Azeroth. The difference is i didn’t perpetrate Genocide on the Horde because i am power hungry, if the Horde hadn’t done these things FIRST, then i wouldn’t be interested in Justice or dismantling the Horde.

I wouldn’t expect a member of your faction to understand the consequences of your actions though, just to try to deflect and point fingers. All you worry about is the search for power and domination, the beat of the war drum and murder.

This means nothing. There are a mere few dozen at most of the Ren’dorei and yet they are a playable. So few in fact that the High Elves OUTSIDE the Silver Covenant that are NPC’s on the Alliance outnumber them.

However you can have the Defias Brotherhood if you want, they fit in with the rest of the murder hobo’s of the Horde.

Back to the crypt with you now undead scum and spawn of Sylvanas…or maybe now you are a follower of N’zoth since you like to quote him, doesn’t matter either way as you are still cannon fodder for whoever is in charge of your faction and expendable.

Its a video game not your life. Chill.
People who play the game are players, not an actual part of the faction they choose to play.
Id say it goes for you as well but its quite clear you believe the fantasy you play

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Should you be saying this to yourself see as you constantly troll people who want high elves?

Oh no, I disagree with someone about an aspect of the game!
Clearly I am a bad man who hates people. /s

Cease the self victimization. Someone saying no isnt hurting you.

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Oh how i have missed you broflake.

I havent gone anywhere.

I mean you’re claiming it’s a video game not your life but you have 3342 posts most of them on this topic.

Having a view on something =/= treating it as my life. Most of my posts are also elsewhere but good attempt at bait.

On the other hand, attacking people based on the faction they are on, is certainly taking it further. Your weak attempt at false equivalency is noted.

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You appear awfully bitter in real life. One can blame the Alliance for Arthas. Who was the sole cause of the near extinction of the High Elves. Jaina for the purge of citizens rightfully in their homes, part of an already very small population. One can blame the Alliance for the enslavement of Pandaren in Jade Forest and the Orcish internment camps. The assault on the freed orcs by Daelin Proudmoore.

Gilneas for their unprovoked assault on the Horde in Legion which led to the whole BFA expansion mind you, yes, this was the reason Saurfang agreed to assault Teldrassil. Unprovoked attacks on the goblins in Silithus. Stormwind failing to repay the Defias for rebuilding Stormwind, which led to the formation of the Defias Brotherhood. Anduin for failing to send troops to Darkshore after the War of Thorns.

Varian for assaulting Undercity believing the Horde assaulted them at the Wrathgate. The Alliance assaulting Mulgore despite having good relations with Baine (Horde BFA table missions). The assault on Dazar’alor and the murder of Rastakhan when they were still unaligned in the faction conflict. The burning of Vulpera caravans in Voldun where you literally see Alliance destroying them before they joined the Horde.

The whole advance of the Alliance from Theramore into the Southern Barrens was in response to the false presumption that the Horde called for Alliance deaths at the Wrathgate. Yrel and the AU Draenei alligned themselves with the Alliance and they are seen leading a full scale continental genocide against the Mag’har orcs.

You can try to cherry pick the list, but in truth sometimes what appears as just is a fecade for true human nature. Everyone is corrupt and can do noble and honorable things. The Horde and Alliance are more similar than different. The moral lesson taught by Scooby-doo was the monsters were always humans (us).

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I do? How’s that? I mean it’s a nice opener i guess but you know nothing at all about me. Oh wait, nevermind you are a troll.

Stopped reading right here as you seem to be unable to use reason and thought in whatever it is you are about to write.

The Alliance can blame Arthas for wiping out it’s own citizens in Stratholme…once he killed his father he was no longer a part of the Alliance, everything else is blah blah blah although…

I am sure you cherry picked only the best crap to try to muster up to the giant pile of dead bodies of Theramore and Teldrassil and the UC. Sad you would even try to justify anything when your own leaders kill their own soldiers on a regular basis to achieve “victory”.

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It appears the Alliance has trolls as a playable race as well.

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You can call me a troll all you want…but just the fact that you even bothered to write something like

Is so ridiculous on the face of it that any argument you come up with will be laughable by definition.

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