End Faction "War" And Join Ranks?

[Rhuor-wyrmrest-accord (Rhuor)]

No sir I am done. I don’t wan’t both factions getting along, I don’t want NPCs or Players to cooperate or be neutral to each other. Actually I want all Horde races ejected from Alliance themed neutral organizations like Cenarion Circle or Knights of Silverhand.

Wow, that’s a little ridiculous. I get faction pride, but come on there. Not every race that happens to be Horde is Horde aligned. Hamuul has been more Cenarion Circle for years more so than Horde, though he has aided the Tauren. Never when it came to war, however.

Also we lost Lordaeron, and we’ve lost more leaders than the Alliance has. Losses have existed on both sides for a pointless war. It’s so ridiculous at this point, and beyond unbelievable.

While I advocated for the end of the factions, at least being allowed to group up would make things better for both sides. We already fight alongside NPCs and opposite faction leaders, and have for 15 years. There’s no reason not to.

[Palatina-garrosh]

traitor quest line one could complete in order to change factions, but doing so would forever lock that character to the new faction,

I’ll take this one. For the Scourge!!!

[Zaela-runetotem (Zaela)]

The scourge isn’t a faction, but I’d love to play as the scourge instead of the alliance or horde. The Ebon Blade is the closest thing I can say is a separate faction that isn’t tied too closely to either faction.

We Death Knights ultimately serve the Lich King, regardless if we want to or not. I’m curious how blizzard is going to change the relationship between the Ebon Blade and Bolvar after the Helm of Domination breaks.

[Pheandra-emerald-dream]

Wow, that’s a little ridiculous. I get faction pride, but come on there. Not every race that happens to be Horde is Horde aligned. Hamuul has been more Cenarion Circle for years more so than Horde, though he has aided the Tauren. Never when it came to war, however.

For such a great druid he certainly did a lot to protect the World tree and stand by the other Druids in Darkshore… oh right he didn’t. He abandonned them.

Also we lost Lordaeron, and we’ve lost more leaders than the Alliance has. Losses have existed on both sides for a pointless war. It’s so ridiculous at this point, and beyond unbelievable.

What sucks is that Alliance was never responsible for any of these losses.
The Horde player got satisfaction by destroying and invading Alliance territory in this faction war expansion.

Meanwhile I received none of that besides that idiotic scenario in lordaeron that ended in utter failure.

While I advocated for the end of the factions, at least being allowed to group up would make things better for both sides. We already fight alongside NPCs and opposite faction leaders, and have for 15 years. There’s no reason not to

I honestly struggle to recall working for Horde NPCs. There was Thrall in Cataclysm which was notoriously one of the worst expansions ever produced.
On a theme level and meta level the more these two factions are separated the better.
I absolutely love that more and more Alliance characters only have utter contempt for the Horde and its races and I hope that continues and expands to other NPCs and other npc factions.

[Edgyjojomeme-nathrezim]

This is a problem that removing factions would solve

it will benefit only alliance. Horde will get bunch of handicapped races. Can already see those “only horde races” queues. There’s nothing to gain for horde in this "alliance’’

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

And nothing to Lose.

if it means that much to you. Then go right ahead and make those “Horde races only” groups.

More power to you. The rest of us just want the freedom of choice

[Edgyjojomeme-nathrezim]

This wont work without free-for-all wpvp

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

That means more freedom of choice. Sounds good to me.

[Palatina-garrosh]

This wont work without free-for-all wpvp

Which worked just fine in Dalaran Sewers. Warmode on? FFA. Warmode off? Co-op.

[Mevaar-destromath]

And that both factions can join together and slaughter the newest bad guy.

But we don’t need to join together for that tho, I’m strong enough to solo every future big bad (according to Ian).

[Nillah-uldaman (Nillah)]

Piss off. Death to the Horde…all of them. I am not turd Anduin and the Horde don’t get off scott free because she left and Anduin the turd decided no one esle was complicit in the genocide against your own race. Anduin deserves to die and i hope i get the opportunity to kill that soyboi asap for his treasonous acts against his own people.

Yikes. Roleplay forums are that way.

[Zhiifang-wyrmrest-accord (Zhiifang)]

The moment they lift the restriction, the moment a lot of us leave.

No you wont

[Kakistos-stormrage (Kakistos)]

though I feel like it’s at the end of its life at this point considering I don’t think the OP has responded much if at all?

I decided to actually play WoW rather than debate on the forums.
Besides, I created the thread to find out other people’s thoughts on it all. Not try to force my opinion on anyone.
I don’t see how further input from me is really necessary. I’m currently reading through everyone’s posts and I’m at 250 out of 313. Some pretty interesting stuff. Probably more interesting than anything I could come up with.

Thank you to everyone for their two cents. If you have more thoughts, ideas, or concerns… keep 'em coming!!!

…And I’m definitely still in favor of combining forces in PvE.

Edit: No idea why I can’t get the quote to format correctly…
I’m new to this whole WoW forum thing.
Edit #2: Thanks Megascope for the quote fix!!!

[Megascope-echo-isles]

the faction divide is a dumb part of the game.

Corrected for spelling.

We need new factions to become playable and the ability to CHOOSE (within certain restrictions) which faction we support. The Kirin Tor is historically neutral. Same with the Earthen Ring and Cenarion Circle. What about Bolvar and Acherus? What about a new Troll empire with new skins for Jungle and Forest trolls? Or a Queldorei empire between Suramar and Silvermoon (still no Void Elves, sorry. Go wash or something).

And what if, instead of being side-hoes for Horde & Alliance who cease to exist when we aren’t looking directly at them, those factions could do things on their own. Maybe they have beefs, form alliances, declare war against each other. Maybe the political dynamic of WoW can be fluid and actually INTERESTING!

So no, Horde and Alliance don’t need to be bestest buds or comeplete fall apart. But we do need something MORE.

[Megascope-echo-isles]

Edit: No idea why I can’t get the quote to format correctly…

Make the quote tags their own line.

[Scrunchy-alterac-mountains (Scrunchy)]

I’ve played horde an alliance over the years never really got into the whole faction pride thing. I don’t really care what they do with horde and alliance in the future.

[Hozaki-black-dragonflight]

Just disband the alliance and join the Horde, problemed solved.

[Megascope-echo-isles]

Factions are supposed to be grander than just the hatred and meant to be a meaningful part of your character.

But they’re not. And if they are, join an rp server and let it be as important to your character as you’d like.

[Megascope-echo-isles]

The real irony is that the ONLY cross-faction content you could ever play in this game is in PVP with Mercenary Mode.

[Arillira-wyrmrest-accord]

Make a neutral faction and call it a day. Folks can join it if they want, one time option, no switching back. But, it won’t happen because it’s just too much to do and changes too many things.