Embers of Neltharion Upgrade System Overview

Community General Discussion
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So you want vault and upgrade system gone, remove M+ and you want justice points and valor points to buy gear - wrath classic exists.

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Blizzard was doing so good too…

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Nah, just want it simple and like I said, limited to 1-2 items.

  • All classes now gain access to a brand new item, equipable in a new character slot.
    • Paladins - Librams
    • Shamans - Totems
    • Warriors - Bow
    • Rogues - Poison Bomb
    • Druid - Idol
    • Etc… Flavor items

Each week will allow players access to a new quest to upgrade this item.

  • Week One Quest:

    • Kill the first boss in LFR/Normal/Heroic/Mythic for X item level Libram, Totem, Idol, whatever

  • Week Two Quest:

    • Kill the Second boss in LFR/Normal/Heroic/Mythic for item level upgrade.

  • Week Three Quest:

    • Kill the Third boss in LFR/Normal/Heroic/Mythic for item level upgrade.

  • Etc…

8 week progression system to allow players to push bosses more easily without the need to nerf said bosses or add a super complex system for every single piece of gear. =/

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I’m sure it’s not that complicated, uh, even if it’s a lotta words

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This is the 3rd or 4th 5000 word essay you’ve posted on this system. Why is Blizz blatantly ignoring the fact that if it takes that much explanation it is not a good system?

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More currencies piled on top of more currencies. World of currencycraft should be the games name :crazy_face: overflow, sigil eggs, now flintstone flakes lol.

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Love this new gearing path and I like it how it differentiate each gear types and how we could upgrade them. And now, it’s made easier for those who only does outdoor content via world quest or world event like the fyrakk event or community event like the soup event and things like that.

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I hope its overcomplicated with lots of currencies tbh.

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Excited for this new system. Love that it’s not gated behind rating.

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Keep up with these in-depth post and or articles because I love to read these long blogs or post. And keep up with these transparency.

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Dungeons?

Does normal and or heroic dungeons count? Or just mythic and mythic plus?

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Why do you move away from multiple currencies, but still gatekeep how many crests we can earn a week, “increasing it later in the season”? This might make sense if players were just swimming in gear they want to use, but given how terrible loot drop rates are, this weekly crest cap seems unnecessary, and players are much more likely to have more crests than they can spend because they have no gear to upgrade.

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Why so many currencies? :dracthyr_uwahh_animated:

Too many currencies, guys!!

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This is ridiculous. Why can’t you just let people upgrade raid gear with valor or upgrade tokens like s4 of shadowlands?

This system has required multiple posts to explain how it works. It’s a bad system.

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If wrath classic had a legit M+ system I think a lot of people would jump over just due to the simplicity.

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Its really simple you are overthinking it.

flightstones are just valor but for this specific season, dont let the name confuse you.

Shadowflame crests are a combination of primal infusions, titan matrixes and M+ rating.
There are 4 tiers which are basically: raidfinder, normal, heroic and mythic.

This new system is incredibly simple and intuitive, if we were to list all the systems in place currently the new system would look far simpler. Titan matrixes, m+ rating, valor, elemental overflow, primalist stones, primal infusions etc etc.

When you get your hands on it and try content from all aspects of the game (outside of pvp because that is intentionally insular) you will find that its very simple and intuitive. Do hard content get flight stones and high level crests, do easy content get flight stones and low level crests. Want good gear, you need to get it from hard content and upgrade it with hard content currency. Have low gear? you can still upgrade it so that your items are on the same tier as the next level of content.

Simple.

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Its simple people are just being obtuse about it.

Also its to stop raidfinder gear getting upgraded to mythic level, tiers are kept separated with flightstones.

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less than current and they all work with the same system.

This system basically combines valor, titan matrixes, primal infusions and m+ rating, elemental overflow, primal stones all into one simple system that now includes raiding.

flightstones (valor) and 4 tiers of crests (as opposed to limiting upgrades by M+ rating)
the 4 tiers are divided by raid tier.

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Once again they complicate something that should not be complicated.
It is the situation of the professions … again.

Why does everything have to be so complicated?
Why can’t I buy and upgrade gear with a simple NPC ?

The higher ilvl the item or the bigger the upgrade the more X token it asks for.

I don’t care about the vault. I hate everything that has absurd RNG.
I prefer a fixed path where I can see the finish line from day 1.

To buy this trinket I’m going to need 15 days.
To buy this 2H I will need 18 days.

Simple, easy and I can see how I get closer to my goal as the days go by.

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They just can’t help themselves.

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