I understand your point here- but you’re congratulating people on having luck and nothing more. There was no skill or dedication involved in this acquisition.
I finally got my drop this week only because of the bump to the embers - I had been pugging every week on heroic. For ~13 weeks. I don’t know if you’ve tried pugging Fyrakk, but it can take literal hours between high competition to get into those groups for plate DPS and then actually getting in a group that can kill it.
But then you’ll see someone in Valdrakken AFK with the axe only to find out he literally only does LFR (yes, I have seen this exact case). He put in next to zero effort and got lucky over you who has spent days worth of total time pugging Fyrakk. That’s the bad feeling.
There’s nothing to congratulate over this legendary. I have 2 guildmates who also have been pugging constantly every week. One of them got it this week too - he finished the quest and then said “I’ll see you guys next season or expansion.” and logged off. He was so burnt out by this that he doesn’t even want to use the damn thing. The other said he’s going to retire his warrior after he gets the drop as well.
Individual character power is important to people - especially during shorter seasons. Legendaries don’t last entire expansions or beyond. If you’re on the bad luck of the stick, you feel like you’re behind the entire time and there’s nothing you can do about it because of RNG. All my friends are on a break and now I finally have the axe. I plan to pug a little M+, but like it’s too late to have that much fun with it. It’s a sour feeling.
It seems like people in this mindset don’t even want to continue playing at all regardless, but for some reason unable to just take a break until they get an item they don’t even care about using.
Which is kinda crazy to me.
If you beat the content you were working at and don’t want to push more just be done.
I wonder if a lot of people feel pushed to clear mythic Fryakk as many times as it takes to get his mythic level trinkets and caster/2h agility staff all at their max item levels?
I wouldn’t say I’m congratulating people on just luck alone. Every person I saw with the axe before the “fix, I checked out their other gear and most of it was 470-480, so these players were putting in the work for it. Along with a little luck. But that little luck is what prevents everyone and their grandmother from having it, and saying “oh wow, another legendary… how neat I guess”
I don’t think the drop should be less than 1%, it should be little higher. But when it gets to a point where they are giving them out like free flyers on the street, that’s when it feels like there is nothing special about them anymore.
I disagree. If I am the only Ench shammy in the LFR I have a higher chance to get gear for my it. Also a lot of these players are overgear and don’t need any drops. I got 4 drops in total on my rogue this week doing LFR boss since the group have so many Pally DK and warrior and is just doing the quest for the lego and pass on all the loot.
After we killed heroic Fyrakk as a guild twice, several of our officers wanted to push mythic - that killed raiding entirely for us for the season. Those few of us who wanted to push at least high M+ for gear and maybe some rating stuck around. I basically stopped trying personally because I knew I was missing a big bump in DPS. I would only log on for heroic fyrakk pugging and then log off on that character. Now that I have the axe, I would like to start getting back into it, but I am a little burnt too and now no one is online that I know.
I want to use it while it’s current, so I’m going to try, but it’s just meh at this point.
I was putting in arguably more work than many others you saw who had it right away. Your logic doesn’t really follow through with that. I’ve been 480+ since week ~3 of the season.
If someone gets it on heroic after 3 kills and I needed 13, what exactly did they put in the work for - Or if someone got it on their 10th LFR kill with no other raiding progress, what does that mean?
I agree with you. All I’m saying is, we are late in the season, complete RNG legendries, specifically in retail, is a garbo system. By buffing the drop rate they are essentially already doing what is being suggested, “this system sucks, at this point just let everyone get it and do better on the next one”. Here’s hoping they take the opportunity of the fated version and make it something like shadowmourne or a series of quests in raid and the world.
They can still make you do Superblooms (which is the least fun event maybe ever) and spend all the money on mats. I think most players would’ve had more fun if every week they could continue to work towards the legendary and then be rewarded for staying at it versus give it a shot on Tuesday, didn’t drop try again in 7 days.
It really comes down to my personal motivation - Could I push without the axe? Of course! But at some point, it gets exhausting seeing others with half (or less) the effort you’ve put in for the axe. It takes a toll on that motivation, and it did for me and now I don’t have any friends currently playing to push with or care about it. I can make more friends, of course, but this all kind of falls back into motivation.
If the axe was locked behind Mythic raiding only - I would have accepted that I wouldn’t get it until maybe next expansion or the following as a mog item because I’m not a mythic raider (or at least one that doesn’t push for CE).
That’s what I think some players need to understand. You don’t “need” the axe to be good. Yeah it helps, but you can still be fine without it. Tell me this, would you rather have the axe with 100 other players owning it, or would you rather have the axe drop for you when literally everyone in the class owns it?
Idk, maybe I’m the only person that thinks it neat to own something that not 30 others in my guild have. But that’s just me.
I don’t care about other players owning the axe. I care about me owning the axe.
Personal character growth/power is important to me on my character. What other people have on their character is not important to me. The “cool” factor has nothing to do with it for me.
We play WoW because it’s an RPG - one of the main points of modern RPGs is character growth and power. My character jumped in how much power from Season 2 to Season 3? 30%? 40%? 50%? Now when you look at the axe as an 8% overall power gain, that is a huge jump from season to season.
In the same logic- If you think gear is not important, then why do you care to gear at all? Because this is an RPG, and gearing is an important part of that. If we all think “well it’s going to be replaced next season, so why care” Then why play the season at all then? Just do the story and move on to the next game until the next season.
I think most people want it not because it’s unique or rare, but because it’s a dps increase. People think that the plate classes were tuned around it. It being rare is just an obstacle. This whole thing is a hot topic because they implemented “bad luck protection” which made people assume that it was more likely they would get it than what the reality of the situation is.
Yeah me too. It’s a nice thought, but honestly, I’m still confused on how it works, if it works, etc.
I’m not upset that my warrior doesn’t have it. It’s still something to work towards. But the BLP item just reminds you it didn’t drop. That’s annoying to me. And this thread has shown me that it’s kinda detrimental to people’s mental state towards this game and loot.
I was fortunate enough to get it, and I wish other players good luck. But for now, I feel like the man.
I would personally take the second option, but again, that’s just me. Even in the earlier days of wow, I did not feel like I absolutely needed rare loot to enjoy the game. If I get it, SWEET! If not, better luck next time and I’ll still have fun.
It is ok, this whole leggo disappointment for 3 months has made me care less about wow, I am now playing other games, only login a few times a week, spending as less time as possible till I just give this game up. Simply don’t care anymore.
DPS competition between friends can also be a fun thing. It’s something one of my friends and I do each raid tier - battle each other for who wins the DPS chart on each fight. I like being competitive on the meters, it’s fun to me.
